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There's no way in hell Carolina is taking Hagelin plus a pick for Skinner.
But aren't Karmanos and JR besties?
He is a minority owner now but still a love like that never dies.
There's no way in hell Carolina is taking Hagelin plus a pick for Skinner.
Since I have posted my belief Kessel will be traded after this year due to his salary at 5.1 million for three years is a attractive number. Pens can use that cap space assuming they get picks/ prospects back. That is the way to go as Rust, Hornqvist and Sprong can be top 9 RW's. Next year GMJR has to consider he has to rebuild the roster for the final years of the Crosby/Malkin era.
There's no way in hell Carolina is taking Hagelin plus a pick for Skinner.
Both Skinner and Pacioretty are at around 25% of their points being from the powerplay.
Boy seeing over on the main board how cocky the TB fans were getting makes it funny that the "sure thing" fell apart and now multiple teams are in on him.
THATS JRS MOTHERFLIPPIN MUSIC
We could afford Skinner easily. Let Brassard and Hags walk and you have 7 mil next year. Let Schultz walk and you have another 5.5 the year after.
Correct, especially since they already reportedly rejected an offer that included Brassard plus something else that was deemed an overpayment by both Jesse and Mike....I can’t imagine CAR getting a better offer from the Pens, so unless they change their mind, I wouldn’t expect Skinner in a Pens jersey this year....
Brassard would need replaced by a 3C and 3m is quite cheap for a 3C not on an ELC. And we need to pay Guentzel.
Schultz needs to be replaced by a top 4 capable RH D (price... probably quite large) and we also need to replace Murray.
I'm not saying it can't be done but I think you're looking at the wrong places and therefore maybe underestimating what it would cost. My guess is it would cost you Rust for picks while being replaced by a bottom of the barrel cost 4RW (maybe 4C falls to the same cost too).
True dat. BUT -
Given that NMC and his expiring contract status, at some point they have to change their mind unless the market unexpectedly meets them. And I think it would be unexpected at this point.
Sprong and Rust fill the 2nd and 3rd line roles until Hornqvist gets old and swap up. It’s pretty simple. Hopefully, Guentzel - Crosby - Sprong clicks and Hagelin and Hornqvist are with Brassard on the third line.
The problem with trading Kessel is the power play runs through him. 100% through him.
I don't want Crosby running the PP. I like him down low and behind the net/along the boards winning puck battles and causing matchup issues. I like Malkin open for the one timer and being playmaker option 2. I like Horny causing havoc in front of the net. I want Letang no where near the PP and prefer Schultz as the PP defenseman but he's not the QB, Kessel is...
Not saying our PP would suck without Kessel but having him creates a lot of problems for the other team especially if we're all healthy. When Hornqvist went down we were kinda ****ed a bit there.
There's no way in hell Carolina is taking Hagelin plus a pick for Skinner.
That's placing a lot of faith in two guys who haven't proven to be top six scorers yet at the NHL level.
I like both guys, but I'm not ready to believe that Sprong and Rust can combine for enough offense on that right side to offset letting Kessel go.
I’m not saying I single handedly destroyed the Tampa deal, but I am saying I sent a **** load of good vibes into the ether and now there’s a mystery team in play. Now, before anybody is all like “but the mystery team isn’t the Penguins..” shhhhhhhttheefffuuuuup
Brassard would need replaced by a 3C and 3m is quite cheap for a 3C not on an ELC. And we need to pay Guentzel.
Schultz needs to be replaced by a top 4 capable RH D (price... probably quite large) and we also need to replace Murray.
I'm not saying it can't be done but I think you're looking at the wrong places and therefore maybe underestimating what it would cost. My guess is it would cost you Rust for picks while being replaced by a bottom of the barrel cost 4RW (maybe 4C falls to the same cost too).
True dat. BUT -
Given that NMC and his expiring contract status, at some point they have to change their mind unless the market unexpectedly meets them. And I think it would be unexpected at this point.
Kessel biggest fault this post season was his absolute pathetic performance on the powerplay. I also do not agree that our powerplay runs through Kessel at all.
Well, like I said we bring in a top four D or LW and I think a combination of Brassard, Rust, and that player can.
If we wait to move Kessel than you know what we have Sprong and adjust accordingly.