Ainec
Panetta was not racist
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do you take yourself seriously ?
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do you take things seriously without reading
do you take yourself seriously ?
if Dahlin is having a historic 18 year old season, then Pettersson is having a generational draft + 1 season
it's the same rehash before. Historic to me is Crosby/Ovechkin level of dominance. Yes Ovechkin was technically in his draft +1 due to lockout but whatever
Yeah, no, because when you compare Dahlin to other 18-year-old defensemen in league history, he's pacing for the 3rd best season by such a player ever. When you compare Pettersson's to other 20-year-old forwards in league history, what he's doing is comparatively less remarkable.
Lol, the sample size is so incredibly small here in comparison. There have been 13 18-year old d-men from 2000+ in the league. There is close to 13+ rookie forwards in their 19-20 yr old season in this season alone. That being said, Pettersson is on pace to have one of the best rookie seasons since Ovi.Yeah, no, because when you compare Dahlin to other 18-year-old defensemen in league history, he's pacing for the 3rd best season by such a player ever. When you compare Pettersson's to other 20-year-old forwards in league history, what he's doing is comparatively less remarkable.
Lol, the sample size is so incredibly small here in comparison. There have been 13 18-year old d-men from 2000+ in the league. There is 13+ rookie forwards in their 19-20 yr old season in this season alone. That being said, Pettersson is on pace to have one of the best rookie seasons since Ovi.
No, because in general 18 yr olds dont get a chance to play in the NHL. Most players turn 19 early in the season or before the season in their draft+1 season. There arent many forwards that have had 18 yr old seasons either (27 that have played 50+ or in this season). On average, #1 and #2 pick are usually the only picks that make the NHL in their post-draft season.Which only tells you how hard it is to play in the NHL as an 18yo d-man at all, much less to play well.
He's getting the minutes he's getting now because Marco Scandella and Jake McCabe are both injured. They are both legitimate top 4 defenseman. The Sabres have depth on the blueline (at least on the left side). what they didnt have before Dahlin was a legitimate 1st pairing defenseman on the left side. If anything Housley has underutilized Dahlin since the beginning of the season. So I'm not really sure how that leads to him being "hand fed" minutes.I will admit that was a terrible opinion, But he sure wouldn't be hand fed the minutes he is getting now if Buffalo had better defensive depth
Yeah, no, because when you compare Dahlin to other 18-year-old defensemen in league history, he's pacing for the 3rd best season by such a player ever. When you compare Pettersson's to other 20-year-old forwards in league history, what he's doing is comparatively less remarkable.
You're reading what you want to read. You guys are the ones downplaying Pettersson cause he's not 18 yrs old like dahlin.so Petterson is having a generational Draft + 1 season and Dahlin isn't special because there have only been 13 dman since 2000 to play at 18
gotcha' keep up the good work
so Petterson is having a generational Draft + 1 season and Dahlin isn't special because there have only been 13 dman since 2000 to play at 18
gotcha' keep up the good work
Ovechkin won the Calder over Crosby even though Crosby was 18 and Ovechkin was 20. The award goes to the best rookie, not which rookie is the best relative to their age. Panarin (24) also won over McDavid (18) and yes that was primarily due to McDavid's injury. The point still stands that historically the award goes to whichever rookie has the best season not who has the most rare or "best season relative to age."
With regards to the Calder, it shouldn't matter to voters if Dahlin is 18, 19, or 24. It's about which player had the best season regardless of age.
did you actually compare McDavid to Dahlin?This thread isn't just about who should win the Calder. OP also asked which player you'd rather have, which involves long-term projections. Unless you'd take Panarin over McDavid now because he won the Calder...
did you actually compare McDavid to Dahlin?
Nothing to do with Eichel finally getting someone decent to play with then?Dahlin is one of the absolute biggest reasons a team that last season was among the worst in league history has a pretty good chance of being a playoff team this seasons. An 18 year old defenseman having that kind of impact is insane.
This thread isn't just about who should win the Calder. OP also asked which player you'd rather have, which involves long-term projections. Unless you'd take Panarin over McDavid now because he won the Calder...
Both awesome but Dahlins upside is a generational defenceman who changes the way the position is played and viewed, Pettersson isn't even in that ballpark. And that's no slight to Pettersson he's going to be a top forward in the NHL for a long time.
Both awesome but Dahlins upside is a generational defenceman who changes the way the position is played and viewed, Pettersson isn't even in that ballpark. And that's no slight to Pettersson he's going to be a top forward in the NHL for a long time. Short term though the calder race will be interesting. Rare for a young D to have this big of an impact but gonna be hard to beat Pettersson if he finishes ppg+.
did you actually compare McDavid to Dahlin?