Yes, Dahlin is a bust and Heiskanen should win the Norris. We got that after the first 5 games.
Not sure I buy that. It’s more important to look at draft plus one not age.Worth to mention is Pettersson played most of his games as an 18 year old in the Swedish second tier while Dahlin is in the NHL as an 18 year old. Dahlin is good and will be a beast
apparently scoring on the Blues is something remarkable....Barzal had like 3 5 point games last year and didn't get the ridiculous amount of hype by comparison. Also i'm still laughing as if people are acting as if Dahlin is terrible on defense when he's one of the best....If the Sabres had any depth scoring at all Dahlin would of picked up at least 5 assists over the past 5 games. Nobody but the top line and the defense have scored on teams since the Lightning game.Pettersson has a good game and suddenly there's 3 new pages in this thread?
apparently scoring on the Blues is something remarkable....Barzal had like 3 5 point games last year and didn't get the ridiculous amount of hype by comparison.
apparently scoring on the Blues is something remarkable....Barzal had like 3 5 point games last year and didn't get the ridiculous amount of hype by comparison. Also i'm still laughing as if people are acting as if Dahlin is terrible on defense when he's one of the best....If the Sabres had any depth scoring at all Dahlin would of picked up at least 5 assists over the past 5 games.
yeah I watched him against the Sabres and he had 0 points and 1 shot...apparently he isn't doing "every game" like some people stated. I remember Dahlin playing a pretty good role for the comeback to get them tied down 1-3. If we got by +- I could easily state that Dahlin is having a much bigger impact than Heisk considering Heisk sitting at -2 while Dahlin is +6 even though the Stars have a higher GD and that's not simply a product of playing high minutes on the Sabres obviously considering Risto is -7 with 25:31 per game.It’s not about the points, it’s about what he’s doing on the ice shift after shift, it’s remarkable. You have to watch the games to appreciate all the subtle plays he makes and how many opportunities he’s setting up for his teammates. He leads all rookies with a +10 rating and is terrific defensively. It’s not just about the points, it’s how he’s playing.
Not sure I buy that. It’s more important to look at draft plus one not age.
In his draft plus one year EP won the rookie of the year, MVP and playoff MVP in the tier one Swedish league and had an historic season.
Both players had or are having extraordinary draft plus 1 seasons.
apparently scoring on the Blues is something remarkable....Barzal had like 3 5 point games last year and didn't get the ridiculous amount of hype by comparison. Also i'm still laughing as if people are acting as if Dahlin is terrible on defense when he's one of the best....If the Sabres had any depth scoring at all Dahlin would of picked up at least 5 assists over the past 5 games. Nobody but the top line and the defense have scored on teams since the Lightning game.
Barzal had like 3 5 point games last year and didn't get the ridiculous amount of hype by comparison.
not salty its just annoying when people act like one is so much better than the other...this isn't for the Calder which Pettersson should win its for the future.No need to get salty. The only right answer to this question is either, or both please!
He had like 3 threads for his 5 point games nothing even remotely close to the Gretzsky comparisons.......but ok.Were you not here last year?
Barzal got an IMMENSE amount of hype. Tons of threads created comparing him to guys like Matthews and Marner constantly. Every time he had a 5 point game, the Chiarelli jokes started too.
Barzal was one of the biggest hyped rookies I've seen around these parts since I registered here.
Were you not here last year?
Barzal got an IMMENSE amount of hype. Tons of threads created comparing him to guys like Matthews and Marner constantly. Every time he had a 5 point game, the Chiarelli jokes started too.
Barzal was one of the biggest hyped rookies I've seen around these parts since I registered here.
Pettersson literally has had both 5p nights before Barzal, also barzal got plenty of love for this and his rookie season in general (by literally everyone, not just islanders.) He also had less points and goals than Petey at the same game mark (26p-6g) and at the time, people thought what he was doing was insane. pettersson has 15g and 30p. Also, same with pettersson when it comes to linemates not finishing. He would have a lot more points if players were able to put in the quality chances he creates lol. (While Boeser was injured, he played most of this season with Loui and Goldy--Goldy is good, he just isnt a goal-scorer and f***s up a lot of petey's chances because of it, loui cant seem to hit an empty net). both the sabres and canucks are head to head in gf/gp.apparently scoring on the Blues is something remarkable....Barzal had like 3 5 point games last year and didn't get the ridiculous amount of hype by comparison. Also i'm still laughing as if people are acting as if Dahlin is terrible on defense when he's one of the best....If the Sabres had any depth scoring at all Dahlin would of picked up at least 5 assists over the past 5 games. Nobody but the top line and the defense have scored on teams since the Lightning game.
Pettersson has been in a very tough environment though. He's the number every coach puts on the board first. He has played with struggling wingers. Dahlin has had a slightly easier ride, but it's kind of equal considering age and position. They are both huge factors for their teams. They are both big contributors, but I'm more impressed by Pettersson as the clear #1 player already.Both amazing. I would guess Petterson gets the Calder if he keeps blowing the field away offensively. Not easy for a D to win a calder when there are standout offensive guys. Factor like playing tough minutes, volume of minutes, how hard it is for a D to break into the league at 18, etc... I think those types of arguments are completely lost on the vast majority of voters. If Petterson ends up with 70-80 points, I think it will be a landslide vote.
Who I would take on the oilers though, for very obvious reasons, Dahlin
Pettersson has been in a very tough environment though. He's the number every coach puts on the board first. He has played with struggling wingers. Dahlin has had a slightly easier ride, but it's kind of equal considering age and position. They are both huge factors for their teams already.