Player Discussion Igor Shesterkin

[Crease]

Given the circumstances, looks like Igor will maintain rookie eligibility next season. Calder anyone?

To be considered a rookie, a player must not have played in more than 25 NHL games in any preceding seasons, nor in six or more NHL games in each of any two preceding seasons. Any player at least 26 years of age (by September 15th of that season) is not considered a rookie.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Given the circumstances, looks like Igor will maintain rookie eligibility next season. Calder anyone?

To be considered a rookie, a player must not have played in more than 25 NHL games in any preceding seasons, nor in six or more NHL games in each of any two preceding seasons. Any player at least 26 years of age (by September 15th of that season) is not considered a rookie.

When Georgiev played his last game, it limited Shestyorkin's games to max 25 so yeah, he is Calder eligible next year.

I honestly cannot remember the last time a goalie won the Calder. Raycroft?

 

[Irishguy42]

I honestly cannot remember the last time a goalie won the Calder. Raycroft?

Mason a few years later

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Mason a few years later

Oh, of course! Forgot about Mason

 

[Fugazy]

Given the circumstances, looks like Igor will maintain rookie eligibility next season. Calder anyone?

To be considered a rookie, a player must not have played in more than 25 NHL games in any preceding seasons, nor in six or more NHL games in each of any two preceding seasons. Any player at least 26 years of age (by September 15th of that season) is not considered a rookie.

Yup. He’s got a great chance now for next season.

 

[Fitzy]

Yup. He’s got a great chance now for next season.

To put in perspective, with how long his Russia experience lasted, he'd be one of the oldest, if not the oldest, winner ever since the age cutoff was put in.

 

[Kovalev27]

I fully expect him to be a finalist next season

 

[True Blue]

Given the circumstances, looks like Igor will maintain rookie eligibility next season. Calder anyone?

To be considered a rookie, a player must not have played in more than 25 NHL games in any preceding seasons, nor in six or more NHL games in each of any two preceding seasons. Any player at least 26 years of age (by September 15th of that season) is not considered a rookie.

I believe so. He would enter the season a a candidate. Will compete with Laf.

 

[Gargyn]

I believe so. He would enter the season a a candidate. Will compete with Laf.

And Kaprizov.

 

[Leetch3]

last one in the series

Analyzing the top 10 prospects for the NY Rangers: No. 1 Igor Shesterkin

 

[xsniper11x]

Given the direction the league is headed and how commoditized the goaltending position has become, I was curious to everyone’s thoughts if Shesty has a big year and wants a huge, Vasilevskiy like, contract next summer?

I’m probably getting ahead of myself here as who knows what the cap situation looks like in summer ‘21. However, with all the young talent that will be due raises, it just doesn’t seem like a good move to invest so much in goaltending when players like Kakko, Fox, Laf and possibly more will need big contracts down the road.

 

[GAGLine]

Given the direction the league is headed and how commoditized the goaltending position has become, I was curious to everyone’s thoughts if Shesty has a big year and wants a huge, Vasilevskiy like, contract next summer?

I’m probably getting ahead of myself here as who knows what the cap situation looks like in summer ‘21. However, with all the young talent that will be due raises, it just doesn’t seem like a good move to invest so much in goaltending when players like Kakko, Fox, Laf and possibly more will need big contracts down the road.

Vasilevskiy played 90 games across 3 seasons while on his ELC. He then signed a 3 year contract at a 3.5 mil AAV. There's no chance that Shesty is getting anything close to what Vasi got on his new contract.

 

[Levitate]

Given the direction the league is headed and how commoditized the goaltending position has become, I was curious to everyone’s thoughts if Shesty has a big year and wants a huge, Vasilevskiy like, contract next summer?

I’m probably getting ahead of myself here as who knows what the cap situation looks like in summer ‘21. However, with all the young talent that will be due raises, it just doesn’t seem like a good move to invest so much in goaltending when players like Kakko, Fox, Laf and possibly more will need big contracts down the road.

Yeah I think he has to "prove it" more than 1 year
It's possible if he plays lights out and takes the Rangers deep into the playoffs then he could have a bigger argument but I imagine the Rangers will want at least a 1 year bridge to evaluate and then decide if a longterm contract taking him into his nearly mid 30's is a good plan

 

[xsniper11x]

Fair point on Vasi’s performance, although they’re only a year apart and Igor‘s agent will likely argue his KHL performance is more proof than a few years as an NHL backup. We’ll likely have to make a long term decision on Shesty much earlier than TB had to on Vasi.

Part of me feels like it’s a reason why Gorton is hard pressed to part with George. Given the trend in goaltending (not to mention Benny’s ability to churn out quality goalies) it seems difficult to commit big money to a G. Given we could have as many as four “big money” contracts at forward over the next few years, it makes me wonder if having an elite G is even possible. I still didn’t even take into account Trouba and whatever Fox gets.

With so much talent, there will undeniably be a cap casualty among the stars in the group, and I’m wondering if it ends up being Shesty.

 

[Chytilmania]

Fair point on Vasi’s performance, although they’re only a year apart and Igor‘s agent will likely argue his KHL performance is more proof than a few years as an NHL backup. We’ll likely have to make a long term decision on Shesty much earlier than TB had to on Vasi.

Part of me feels like it’s a reason why Gorton is hard pressed to part with George. Given the trend in goaltending (not to mention Benny’s ability to churn out quality goalies) it seems difficult to commit big money to a G. Given we could have as many as four “big money” contracts at forward over the next few years, it makes me wonder if having an elite G is even possible. I still didn’t even take into account Trouba and whatever Fox gets.

With so much talent, there will undeniably be a cap casualty among the stars in the group, and I’m wondering if it ends up being Shesty.

Shesty has played what, 12 games? Why are we already talking about getting rid of him in a few years? You guys are crazy looking that far ahead.

 

[ElLeetch]

Oh, of course! Forgot about Mason

Considering how Mason and Racroft worked out, maybe we better hope Alexis wins the calder instead.

 

[Rongomania]

Laf and Shesty = Double Calder

 

[xsniper11x]

Shesty has played what, 12 games? Why are we already talking about getting rid of him in a few years? You guys are crazy looking that far ahead.

I hope you’re right, but I’m not sure. We keep pointing to NHL experience, which is a valid argument, but he’s also going to be 25 before hockey even starts (assuming Jan 1), so that big contact is either coming in ‘21 or ‘22.

I also don’t think it’s crazy to question whether we should invest a ton of money in goaltending just in principle, especially when we’re likely to have numerous stars throughout our lineup for the foreseeable future. Just food for thought, as I don’t think any team in the cap world can win by handing out superstar contracts to players in all four positions.

 

[NY Lito]

I hope you’re right, but I’m not sure. We keep pointing to NHL experience, which is a valid argument, but he’s also going to be 25 before hockey even starts (assuming Jan 1), so that big contact is either coming in ‘21 or ‘22.

I also don’t think it’s crazy to question whether we should invest a ton of money in goaltending just in principle, especially when we’re likely to have numerous stars throughout our lineup for the foreseeable future. Just food for thought, as I don’t think any team in the cap world can win by handing out superstar contracts to players in all four positions.

The money is there, you just have to get a little creative. I know NY isn't FL but hopefully if the roster is littered with superstars some guys will take slight discounts like the Lightning boys. Hedman Vasi Stamkos Kuch all make big money and Point got paid while still taking a short term discount. We can make it work we'd just have to get creative. I know they're super tight against the cap but they won a Cup. That's all that matters.

 

[NY Lito]

Bumping this thread since we're all still pretty down about Hank. Tough pill to swallow but having this guy to carry the torch definitely makes it easier to digest. Pumped to see even more of Igor.

 

[Synergy27]

I feel like I was (and likely still am) out on an island with this opinion, but having a star goaltender is a problem. Your goalie just cannot be taking up a significant portion of the cap if you want to have depth throughout the lineup. There’s a reason why the Rangers didn’t win a Cup with Hank. There’s a reason why those key injuries to Zucc and the defense proved decisive in the years the Rangers came close.

This team needs to win before Shesterkin gets paid. That extra $6M in Vasilevsky’s pocket is going to make it really difficult for TB to win multiple Cups.

 

[Kovalev27]

Bumping this thread since we're all still pretty down about Hank. Tough pill to swallow but having this guy to carry the torch definitely makes it easier to digest. Pumped to see even more of Igor.

Im thrilled about hank moving on and a full season of Igor. He’s the reason we’re playoff bound this year.

 

[Fugazy]

Im thrilled about hank moving on and a full season of Igor. He’s the reason we’re playoff bound this year.

Can't wait to hand over the keys to Igor without him having to look over his shoulder. It's his net now with no distractions.

 

[NY Lito]

I feel like I was (and likely still am) out on an island with this opinion, but having a star goaltender is a problem. Your goalie just cannot be taking up a significant portion of the cap if you want to have depth throughout the lineup. There’s a reason why the Rangers didn’t win a Cup with Hank. There’s a reason why those key injuries to Zucc and the defense proved decisive in the years the Rangers came close.

This team needs to win before Shesterkin gets paid. That extra $6M in Vasilevsky’s pocket is going to make it really difficult for TB to win multiple Cups.

There's more than one way to skin a cat, with the cat being contending for a cup. You can do it with a goalie on a big contract, it just makes things trickier. Every situation is different.

I also don't think Igor is going to get "paid" for a little while. Certainly not his next contract.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

I feel like I was (and likely still am) out on an island with this opinion, but having a star goaltender is a problem. Your goalie just cannot be taking up a significant portion of the cap if you want to have depth throughout the lineup. There’s a reason why the Rangers didn’t win a Cup with Hank. There’s a reason why those key injuries to Zucc and the defense proved decisive in the years the Rangers came close.

This team needs to win before Shesterkin gets paid. That extra $6M in Vasilevsky’s pocket is going to make it really difficult for TB to win multiple Cups.

There is some validity to this for sure. Especially now with the flat cap affecting not only the next few years but the years to follow. Another concern in this regard is all of the top talent they are pulling from the draft.

If they develop the way we expect, they will make bonuses and have to be paid too. This is why I brought up that it would actually benefit the Rangers if Kakko was a late bloomer and you could sign him to a longer term deal and eat some of his UFA years. You would need some luck like this to build a dynasty.

But in the cap world we live in (even more so after COVID) its almost impossible to build a perennial cup contender. There just arent enough slices of pizza to go around.