Byram for Poehling?
even though byram is never getting moved, for fun i'll play along.
from a neutral observer this seems fair
Drouin
Romanov
Caufield
for
Jost
Byram
Then would a Drouin+Romanov for Byram start the discussion? If Col D is a concern, I think Romanov could well fill that spot
And now we're at the fun part of the thread where the team proposing the trade starts to try to devalue their target player. Classic!It will be interesting to see how Byram looks once he turns pro next year. Pre-draft he was a Blue Chip prospect but draft +1, I have him slipped a bit to grade A. Nothing to be crazy concerned with cause up/down movement is normal for prospects.
What's funny is nobody considers the Habs loosing this trade if Byram disappoints? It's like Byram disappointing is impossible or something
And now we're at the fun part of the thread where the team proposing the trade starts to try to devalue their target player. Classic!
Nah... not really. I get how the Avs prefer to keep Byram. But it's weird to me that some think he has zero chance to disappoint. In my books, proven NHL talent just touching prime years is worth more than a prospect who has not turned pro yet.
Bet you the story changes on both players when you look back in 3 years.
Romanov > Byram so big no to that
He has all the tools but IMO seems lost on where to be most plays and he seems to chase the play. Seems like a player with a lot of risk but he does have upside , seems really over hyped from what I've seen in the wjc. That being said I agree with you and would want no part of Byram in a trade unless it's a lesser piece going back than Drouin.
even though byram is never getting moved, for fun i'll play along.
from a neutral observer this seems fair
Drouin
Romanov
Caufield
for
Jost
Byram
Did you just say Byram has slipped in his draft+1 season lol?It will be interesting to see how Byram looks once he turns pro next year. Pre-draft he was a Blue Chip prospect but draft +1, I have him slipped a bit to grade A. Nothing to be crazy concerned with cause up/down movement is normal for prospects.
What's funny is nobody considers the Habs loosing this trade if Byram disappoints? It's like Byram disappointing is impossible or something
"Good contract". He's 24 with a career high of 21 goals, 53 pts. He's broken 20 goals once in his career, 2 seasons ago. He's never played all 82 games. He's not renowned for any particular defensive ability. And people still talk about him like he's a 30 goal/70 point guy. He's shown what he is and he's marginally above replacement level. In addition to which, he doesn't fill any need for the Avs. Remember what the Avs paid for Burakovsky? The guy who's outscoring Drouin? What makes Drouin worth more than that?Remember when some ppl thought Drouin could be better than Mac ?
Byram could be a legit top pair guy or a number 3
I can understand if you don't want to move Byram for Drouin, but nothing is sure for Byram while Drouin could put 80 points on their top line, Landeskog and Kadri on the second line
Drouin got a good contract also. And only 24.
Did you just say Byram has slipped in his draft+1 season lol?
Lol. Nobody's giving up Byram for Drouin.
Admittedly your comment is pretty reasonable looking back, so I apologize. These interesting takes triggered me but yours was most recent. I just find these sorts of comments funny and uninformed.
I just don’t understand. He has improved immensely. He’s carrying a tire fire of a hockey team on his back. Unless you expected him to score 26 goals again which was known to be ridiculously unsustainable last year I just don’t understand how you could think Byram has fallen at all.Yes, I expected him to hold his Blue Chip status in his draft +1. I have him now as a Grade A. Do you seriously think a prospect does not go up and down in trends from 18-21?
Nah... not really. I get how the Avs prefer to keep Byram. But it's weird to me that some think he has zero chance to disappoint. In my books, proven NHL talent just touching prime years is worth more than a prospect who has not turned pro yet. You are going to confuse and twist that into a trade that you should make for sure. Not what I am saying.
Bet you the story changes on both players when you look back in 3 years. Pretty sure you think Drouin stalls or goes backwards and Byram rises up to top pairing D. It guess work either way...is my point
I just don’t understand. He has improved immensely. He’s carrying a tire fire of a hockey team on his back. Unless you expected him to score 26 goals again which was known to be ridiculously unsustainable last year I just don’t understand how you could think Byram has fallen at all.
#1 He has not lost value, why even say this in a thread where 100% of Avs fans wholeheartedly refuse to part with him and toss out "#1D" or "Top pairing"? He clearly hasn't.The reality is that Byram's value has slightly regressed due to his D+1 season and being the #1 D for the Canada does not make him the best prospect considering that he only got 2 pts in that tournement and that not so long ago Victor Mete was the #1 D in that tournament and that sure as heel did not make him the next best D propsect at that time.
I just don’t understand. He has improved immensely. He’s carrying a tire fire of a hockey team on his back. Unless you expected him to score 26 goals again which was known to be ridiculously unsustainable last year I just don’t understand how you could think Byram has fallen at all.
They are 19 lol. It’s a 19 year olds tournament for defenseman. It’s very rare for 18 year olds to stand out and yet Byram was still used as their shutdown D. How could you possibly come away from the WHC disappointed by how he played. He was a rock.I expected him to stand out at the WJC like Romanov and Sandin. He didn't. Not saying he sucked either. I have him as a Grade A this year. And next year is his biggest test in terms of his real value as a prospect cause he turns pro. I like Byram a lot and just like you do but he is not a sure shot #1D at this point. He can disappoint
How is saying that Romanov > Byram is uninformed. Romanov has been playing in the second best league since his draft, has completely dominated when playing against his peers two years in a row and has been rated as a better D prospect then Byram at this time.
The reality is that Byram's value has slightly regressed due to his D+1 season and being the #1 D for the Canada does not make him the best prospect considering that he only got 2 pts in that tournament and that not so long ago Victor Mete was the #1 D in that tournament and that sure as heel did not make him the next best D prospect at that time.
You're absolutely right. Let's go by what professional writers say because they're never wrong...#2 He is widely considered the best D prospect or one of by many professional writers. Pronman for example had Byram #5. Romanov? #121. lmao
#1 He has not lost value, why even say this in a thread where 100% of Avs fans wholeheartedly refuse to part with him and toss out "#1D" or "Top pairing"? He clearly hasn't.
#2 He is widely considered the best D prospect or one of by many professional writers. Pronman for example had Byram #5. Romanov? #121. lmao
#3 Victor Mete was a **** prospect compared to Byram and it's insulting to even mention him.