Irishguy42
Mr. Preachy
That redraft sucks
But this^ redraft is pretty radical.
Out.
That redraft sucks
But this^ redraft is pretty radical.
No I had a wedding over the weekend to attend. Was busy and just replied. But yeah you did say he doesn't play on the powerplay I showed that to be false. Not sure where you are going with the rest of your post just accept you have been proven wrong and we can all carry on. Never once "teared" Slavin down I just said he isn't above some of the other D like Lindholm and Trouba yet like another poster stated. At best he's at the same level, at worst he's just below them. You can rest easy guard dog no one is tearing your precious player down.
What are you playing at in this thread? Was the strategy to wait until days later in the wee hours of the morning, just to slip a nitpicky last word under the radar?
I didn't say Slavin literally never touches the ice during a PP, so let's do away with that nonsense about 0:00. I said he "doesn't play on the PP". As demonstrated, he is not on either of the Hurricanes' PP units. If he's on the ice during a PP, it's either as a substitute in a pinch, or because he's starting the post -PP shift.
This is EASILY OBSERVABLE if you have watched the Hurricanes play. It is harder to observe if you are carelessly scanning end-of-season stat sheets.
Other things that happen when you don't really know anything about a player but need to tear him down on the internet:
- You judge him to have played 50% less elite-level hockey than he's actually played
- You don't realize there's a stark difference between his ice time at the beginning and end of a given season
- You project that his role must have been "reduced" due to an insignificant TOI change
- You judge his breakout and his relation to other players primarily on point production, when the player in question is a pure defensive defenseman
Perhaps it's time to stop digging and just put in the effort to actually know something meaningful about the subject.
I watch the Hurricanes twice a year, so I have no firsthand knowledge or dog in this fight, but he's got the 3rd most PP minutes of any defensemen on the team by a pretty substantial margin. Do you really run two units of 4 forwards and 1 defenseman?
I watch the Hurricanes twice a year, so I have no firsthand knowledge or dog in this fight, but he's got the 3rd most PP minutes of any defensemen on the team by a pretty substantial margin. Do you really run two units of 4 forwards and 1 defenseman?
Good lord, man.
Is he on the Hurricanes power play or not?
No, he is not.
This is not that hard.
The correct way to say this is he is not a mainstay on the PP. But he gets minutes. Might not be prime minutes but he gets minutes. And according to Canes fans above he was on a unit for a small period of time. So maybe don't speak in absolutes and spout off on people like you so often do and people might not be inclined to call you on little things like this.
No I had a wedding over the weekend to attend. Was busy and just replied. But yeah you did say he doesn't play on the powerplay I showed that to be false. Not sure where you are going with the rest of your post just accept you have been proven wrong and we can all carry on. Never once "teared" Slavin down I just said he isn't above some of the other D like Lindholm and Trouba yet like another poster stated. At best he's at the same level, at worst he's just below them. You can rest easy guard dog no one is tearing your precious player down.
Reading your posts in this thread and it is very clear that you are completely ignorant regarding Jaccob Slavin. You should probably just quit while you are ahead, and keep your comments to players that you've actually watched.
There is a reason both Weekes and Hradek had him as the best defenseman from this draft.
"Might not be prime minutes", meaning he's not even on either PP unit and comes on the ice for the next shift? Ok.
Bear in mind this all connects back to your larger point that Slavin's ranking against other players hinges mainly on his point scoring.
This is a classic case of someone wielding stats with zero hockey context for what they actually mean.
I thought Parayko at #9 was outrageous until I saw Slavin was #16.
1. Matt Murray
2. Filip Forsberg
3. Alex Galchenyuk
4. Hampus Lindholm
5. Morgan Rielly
6. Teuvo Teravainen
7. Shayne Gostisbehere
8. Andrei Vasilevskiy
9. Colton Parayko
10. Tomas Hertl
11. Jacob Trouba
12. Olli Maatta
13. Frederik Andersen
14. Tanner Pearson
15. Brady Skjei
16. Jaccob Slavin
17. Cody Ceci
18. Matt Dumba
19. Connor Hellebuyck
20. Michael Matheson
21. Damon Severson
22. Jon Gillies
23. Ryan Murray
24. Andreas Athanasiou
25. Jimmy Vesey
26. Connor Brown
27. Radek Faksa
28. Josh Anderson
29. Esa Lindell
30. Tom Wilson
https://www.nhl.com/news/re-drafting-2012-class-penguins-murray-jumps-to-top-spot/c-289915874
Hasn't surpassed Trouba or Lindholm yet. I've seen him play so maybe you should just keep your comments to people you actually know. A lot of assumptions around here.
I'd love to hear a detailed critique of his play, since you've watched him so many times.
That was a part of what I posted but obviously the only part you read was Trouba out paced him in points. You cherry picked one part of my post to complain about and completely ignored the rest. Get a grip.
Would you like a detailed critique of Trouba and Lindholms play as well?