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Hayes, though was an easier call, than currently....
And yet, it still took years to make it...
Hayes, though was an easier call, than currently....
I can't remember the exact number, but all but just shy of $1M still counts against our cap.
When you factor in his replacement on the roster, it really isn't much of a savings. But every bit counts... And the more we can bank, the more cap flexibility we'll have at the deadline.
This move isn't on Beleskey but rather another indictment of the front office and their inability to scout NHL players. It's shocking how bad they are at this.
This move isn’t on Beleskey?
Ummm...sure.
Because it’s not like the player themselves is responsible for their preparation for the season or anything. Or the fact that they signed a deal for $4m per and then showed up out of shape and a shadow of what they were the first year as a B.
That’s ALL on the FO.
Typical of today’s society where nobody wants to take responsibility for anything. It’s much easier to blame someone else.
Joe, Beleskey is what he's always been - a marginal bottom 6 kind of grinder. They grossly overpaid a guy after one anomaly of a season. Stop me if you've heard this one before - Chris Kelly says hello.
Just because they thought they were smarter than everyone else doesn't mean Beleskey was ever going to be what they wanted and needed him to be. He's not that guy. His shooting percentage from that one year alone should have told PROFESSIONAL scouts that it was not something any average player could sustain. They just thought they were getting a late bloomer for a discount, so they jumped. It didn't work out because the guy fell back to earth, which was incredibly predictable. This signing was completely misguided from the jump. So again, it's not on the player for taking the money and the contract. It's on the team for not seeing the reality of the situation and offering him the deal to begin with.
As for his first year here, that is something that everyone here romanticizes, IMO. The guy played nearly three quarters of the season on the first line with DK that year. He never performed to that kind of level here and never deserved that time up on that line. But the team signed him and needed him to be that. He wasn't. He isn't.
Beleskey showed in his last year in ANA and his first year in Boston what he was capable of...and that was not a marginal Bottom 6.
He may have been overpaid for what he was, but he’s not even close to that any more. The guy is the poster child for underachievers, and a good chunk of the blame is on the player.
This move isn't on Beleskey but rather another indictment of the front office and their inability to scout NHL players. It's shocking how bad they are at this.
I don't understand why people can't grasp the fact that Beleskey almost played a third of the season last year before going down with the knee injury. And in those 24 games, he was 2G, 3A, -6. He was playing like crap before he got hurt.
No he didn't. He put up 32 and 37 points. That's a .44 and .49 ppg guy and that's simply not a top line guy. Which is where he played for most of the first year in Boston. He was fifth for forwards in ATOI that year with just under 16 minutes per night. The only forwards ahead of him were DK, Marchand, Bergy, and Loui and those guys all killed penalties
Sometimes a player is put on waivers to see if they can draw interest from other teams knowing, in this case, they can negotiate retained salary.
I have it on excellent authority that a western conference team (you know I will not name the team) would take on Beleskey for a 3rd round pick and 50% retained salary.
Cap hit in Providence = $2,775,000
Cap hit at 50% retained = $1,900,000
If said team sent him to the AHL, they would get the full $1,025,000 in cap relief and the Bruins would be charged with $1,900,000 cap hit. Basically, said team would be buying a draft pick for $875,000 cap hit in this case.
If said team were to buy him out at the end of the season, the Bruins would be charged $950,000 towards the cap for 4 years.
In the end, and this is just my opinion, NOT worth the $875,000 savings or the risk of a $950,00 cap hit over 4 years if said team buys him out.
Noon today is the deadline as you all know.
Sometimes a player is put on waivers to see if they can draw interest from other teams knowing, in this case, they can negotiate retained salary.
I have it on excellent authority that a western conference team (you know I will not name the team) would take on Beleskey for a 3rd round pick and 50% retained salary.
Cap hit in Providence = $2,775,000
Cap hit at 50% retained = $1,900,000
If said team sent him to the AHL, they would get the full $1,025,000 in cap relief and the Bruins would be charged with $1,900,000 cap hit. Basically, said team would be buying a draft pick for $875,000 cap hit in this case.
If said team were to buy him out at the end of the season, the Bruins would be charged $950,000 towards the cap for 4 years.
In the end, and this is just my opinion, NOT worth the $875,000 savings or the risk of a $950,00 cap hit over 4 years if said team buys him out.
Noon today is the deadline as you all know.
My fear is this same scenario playing out with Backes. We grabbed these guys that are starting to decline. Hopefully Backes gives a few good years, but it’s definitely something to watch.
I agree, not worth it. Would rather hold onto him, who knows, he might regain his confidence in Providence and help us later in the year.
Sometimes a player is put on waivers to see if they can draw interest from other teams knowing, in this case, they can negotiate retained salary.
I have it on excellent authority that a western conference team (you know I will not name the team) would take on Beleskey for a 3rd round pick and 50% retained salary.
Cap hit in Providence = $2,775,000
Cap hit at 50% retained = $1,900,000
If said team sent him to the AHL, they would get the full $1,025,000 in cap relief and the Bruins would be charged with $1,900,000 cap hit. Basically, said team would be buying a draft pick for $875,000 cap hit in this case.
If said team were to buy him out at the end of the season, the Bruins would be charged $950,000 towards the cap for 4 years.
In the end, and this is just my opinion, NOT worth the $875,000 savings or the risk of a $950,00 cap hit over 4 years if said team buys him out.
Noon today is the deadline as you all know.
I feel bad for the guy. I was rooting hard for him to get back to what he did in his first year with the team. 15 goals and 44 points was nothing to sneeze at. And that's not even including the wreck-inducing hits he was throwing that year!
Would that that version of Belesky had stayed in shape and was playing for this team now....such is how it goes though. I'm sure he'll go on to have a career elsewhere. He'll get another shot like Jimmy did.
It's not a "marginal" bottom 6 player either, it's a good 3rd line player, and I think we'd all be perfectly fine seeing Beleskey make 3.8 if he actually put up those points and hit and forechecked well...but he does nothing now. If I had to make a rough estimate, I'd say this is 25%on Sweeney and 75 on Beleskey. You could argue Sweeney shouldn't have signed him for that amount or that term because a) his overall career stats showed it might be iffy that he would do that consistently, he was in a contract year, and you have good kids coming up BUT, his job is also to provide the team with good players season to season not wait for prospects, so signing a guy that could potentially give you .4 ppg, more with a good center, can hit fight and forecheck well isn't a bad move.
The rest is on Matt, I remember when he first came here he was boasting his new work out regimen and trainer, then showed up next season out of shape, got injured, and all down hill from there
Would we like to Sweeney become half as good at making hockey trades and free agent signings as they've been at draft and develop? Absolutely, but ultimately players need to deliver