StringerBell
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I was certain that I had read that he was surrounded and the police were waiting for the sun to rise to go in, was he not there?
They set up a giant perimeter, and they've apparently covered about 75% of its area.
I was certain that I had read that he was surrounded and the police were waiting for the sun to rise to go in, was he not there?
I was certain that I had read that he was surrounded and the police were waiting for the sun to rise to go in, was he not there?
According to the press conference, the cops had him but the kid ditched his car and ran away from them.
According to the press conference, the cops had him but the kid ditched his car and ran away from them.
Isn't that what Dorner did as well to escape? Strange that the cops wouldn't be able to pick some one up in these scenarios
He's got a delta on his back...These are American cops we're talking about...
If anyone is bored, the thread on the Bruins board is surreal. Pages are going up as fast as any GDT I've seen. People have been up for almost 24 hours waiting to see what happens. Some interesting links too with pictures of the one dead guy and the huge gouge in is head.
He's got a delta on his back...
suspect in hospital for injury.........it not over until the motive comes out
Well, they are ethnic Chechens and Muslims born in Chechnya. Later, according to their father, they moved to Kyrgyzstan where they were persecuted for being Chechens. They went over to the US, where one was a naturalized citizen and the other on a valid green card. One of the brothers had complained online about having no American friends, and didn't understand them.
Chechnya was involved in two wars of independence against Russia, and is now heavily patrolled by Russia. During the first war, there was plenty of support in the west for their cause due to antiquated Cold War thinking. Many 'foreign fighters' in Iraq and Afghanistan came from Chechnya, and there are plenty of Al Qaeda links there. The Beslan School hostage crisis/massacre was committed mostly by Chechen Islamist separatists. Freedom House listed Chechnya in 2009 as one of the 'worst of the worst' repressive societies in the world.
I'm assuming their motive had to do with their background. Really the only question I have is whether or not they had support from Al Qaeda or other terrorist groups, or were they just pulling a lone wolf operation?
Really the only question I have is whether or not they had support from Al Qaeda or other terrorist groups, or were they just pulling a lone wolf operation?
My uninformed sense is that these two were disgruntled and felt isolated (or made themselves so) and lashed out. Religion and/or culture, if they play a part, were merely excuses.
IMO, this was an operation conducted by radical extremists working outside the framework of an established terrorist organization. You look at the rudimentary nature of their explosive devices and the lack of an escape plan after the attack. If the attack was being coordinated by an actual terrorist organization, you would have likely seen more elaborate bombs and the militants would have likely either martyred themselves in the original attack or have staged additional attacks while trying to evade authorities.
Based off my experience, this operation seems pretty bush-league. Maybe the older brother got some guidance from Islamic militants when he returned to live in Chechnya (although even this would surprise me), but I would be pretty surprised if this attack was being coordinated by AQ or any of their affiliate organizations.
It's sad that the media really have latched on to their ethnicity. It was never questioned if James Holmes was of Irish or Scotish decent. The horror or if Adam Lanza had family ties to some other mostly Caucasian European nation.
A family member of mine who is an American put a picture up on Facebook of a Tshirt for sale that said: "America" Hide and Seek Champs" "You can run but you cant hide" And on either side of the silhouetted trophy was a picture of Bin Laden and a picture of the 19 year old kid from Boston. He had commented: "We Win!!!"
I was like really? Is this humourous? I lost it. He tried to scold me for my sensitivities. I tried to ask who the real winner was as I was confused. Unreal.
Wouldn't be surprised if the younger brother just got sucked along by the older radical brother.
If thats the case, why not turn himself in right away, explain the situation, and he might not get life in prison or death.
The penalty could have been lowered, now there is an officer also dead, more hurt people, and a giant **** show.
No sympathy.