Player Discussion Torey Krug V

[whatsbruin]

Bruce is awesome.

 

[whatsbruin]

I think Donnie will do everything he can to resign him, but if Krugs demands are too high , then he walks.
Lets face it, Krug can definitely get more on the open market than what the B's will offer. It's a matter of if Krug is
willing to leave money on the table. So far Donnie has been successful with Bergie, Brad, and Pasta. Hope it continues with
Krug and Coyle. I'd say the team atmosphere in Bean town is a big selling point.

 

[arider1990]

Anyone notice over the past couple seasons how the Bs come out of a funk when Krug returns from injury? It's no accident. Other players go out of the lineup and somehow the Bs adjust and are ok. Krug goes out of the lineup and it's not so good. Anyone who thinks there is a Krug "replacement" on this team (or most other teams for that matter) is dreaming. Krug is a unique player who is as important to this team's success as anyone. Only way I don't re-sign him is if I am able to use that money to pick up an established surefire top 6 scoring winger who can somewhat compensate for the lost offense in losing Krug. Best case scenario, they keep Krug and find a scoring top 6 winger somehow, obviously.

They were 3-0-2 in those 5 games he missed so they really didn't come out a funk.

 

[ODAAT]

They were 3-0-2 in those 5 games he missed so they really didn't come out a funk.

agreed but I also see a PP that is so much more focused when he is on it. I love Charlie, love Grizz but neither has proven they are close to being as capable and as imaginative as Krug is on the PP

 

[missingchicklet]

They were 3-0-2 in those 5 games he missed so they really didn't come out a funk.

Maybe a funk was overstating things, but they have scored 13 goals in the two games since he has been back, with Krug scoring the GWG in OT in his return. The 5 games he missed they lost to a Fla team they should have beat, beat a Toronto team that was about to fire its coach, lost to the Caps, beat an atrocious NJ team, and barely beat the Sabres. My point being that the Bs seem to get a nice boost when a healthy Krug returns with the offense looking more dynamic. Happened last season as well.

 

[UncleRico]

Anyone notice over the past couple seasons how the Bs come out of a funk when Krug returns from injury? It's no accident. Other players go out of the lineup and somehow the Bs adjust and are ok. Krug goes out of the lineup and it's not so good. Anyone who thinks there is a Krug "replacement" on this team (or most other teams for that matter) is dreaming. Krug is a unique player who is as important to this team's success as anyone. Only way I don't re-sign him is if I am able to use that money to pick up an established surefire top 6 scoring winger who can somewhat compensate for the lost offense in losing Krug. Best case scenario, they keep Krug and find a scoring top 6 winger somehow, obviously.

bruins all season have 39 points out of a possibly 50, which is 78% of possible points.

they went 3-0-2 without krug and got 8 out of 10 possible points. That’s 80% of possible points.

How is that a funk?

 

[Tmac37]

I'm guessing 7 years at 6.75.

 

[alg363636]

He is so f***ing good I am going to be heartbroken if we don't resign him. This team will be significantly worse without him - he is so underrated.

I say 7.25x6 or 6.75x7

 

[BigBear83]

am i the only one that feels like he has been more of a liability this year? i like krug and can agree that his offensive capabilites are way above average, but i would be scared of a lonng term contract.. his agility and quickness get him out of a lot of trouble and i feel like this year especially has been more negatively noticeable.. the wild game he was atrocious until he scored in ot to make you completely forget all the gaffes and turnovers he had.. im not meaning to crap all over him and i hope it doesnt sound like that, im just saying to throw the wallet at him with max years would make me very nervous..

 

[ODAAT]

am i the only one that feels like he has been more of a liability this year? i like krug and can agree that his offensive capabilites are way above average, but i would be scared of a lonng term contract.. his agility and quickness get him out of a lot of trouble and i feel like this year especially has been more negatively noticeable.. the wild game he was atrocious until he scored in ot to make you completely forget all the gaffes and turnovers he had.. im not meaning to crap all over him and i hope it doesnt sound like that, im just saying to throw the wallet at him with max years would make me very nervous..

more of a liability? Umm, nope, he`s always going to have his moments where he simply gets pushed around in the D zone from time to time. He`ll cough the puck up also from time to time but he`s handling the puck a ton and it simply happens.

He`ll likely never be a Norris candidate but he`s, IMO, the most dynamic D-man the B`s have and for the game he brings and his stature, I need to understand that there will be times where he gets burned. The Wild game, if not mistaken, was also his first after being injured so signs of rust and play that wasn`t as crisp as usual were expected

 

[NDiesel]

am i the only one that feels like he has been more of a liability this year? i like krug and can agree that his offensive capabilites are way above average, but i would be scared of a lonng term contract.. his agility and quickness get him out of a lot of trouble and i feel like this year especially has been more negatively noticeable.. the wild game he was atrocious until he scored in ot to make you completely forget all the gaffes and turnovers he had.. im not meaning to crap all over him and i hope it doesnt sound like that, im just saying to throw the wallet at him with max years would make me very nervous..

I actually think the opposite, since the cup finals I think he's been better defensively overall - obviously he's far from perfect but he's improving.

In my opinion you do whatever you can to move Backes and squeeze him in.

 

[PlayMakers]

am i the only one that feels like he has been more of a liability this year? i like krug and can agree that his offensive capabilites are way above average, but i would be scared of a lonng term contract.. his agility and quickness get him out of a lot of trouble and i feel like this year especially has been more negatively noticeable.. the wild game he was atrocious until he scored in ot to make you completely forget all the gaffes and turnovers he had.. im not meaning to crap all over him and i hope it doesnt sound like that, im just saying to throw the wallet at him with max years would make me very nervous..

I don't know that he's gotten worse defensively, he's always had issues in his own zone. I agree with you about the Wild game, he really struggled and the goal in OT erased all the bad.

Personally, I would not re-sign him. When Krug was out Gryz showed he has some real offensive upside too. Krug is one of the best in the game offensively, so I don't think Gryz will hit that level, but if he can bring 80% of what Krug brings offensively while being a much better defender (at half the cost) I think you come out ahead.

Plus, they need to make room for Vaak. He's dominating the AHL at 20. Lauzon is leading the prospects on that team in +/- at +11 too.

All that said, it's been reported that Sweeney is working on an extension for Krug. Signing Krug means you probably lose Gryz to the expansion draft, so I wonder, is there any chance they could be working on a 1 year deal? Sort of a Marian Hossa arrangement, when he signed a series of 1yr deals with Pittsburgh and then Detroit before signing his mega deal with Chicago. They could protect Gryz, expose Krug who's a UFA anyway and then re-sign Krug or let him pursue his mega deal after the expansion draft.

 

[neelynugs]

All that said, it's been reported that Sweeney is working on an extension for Krug. Signing Krug means you probably lose Gryz to the expansion draft, so I wonder, is there any chance they could be working on a 1 year deal? Sort of a Marian Hossa arrangement, when he signed a series of 1yr deals with Pittsburgh and then Detroit before signing his mega deal with Chicago. They could protect Gryz, expose Krug who's a UFA anyway and then re-sign Krug or let him pursue his mega deal after the expansion draft.

i've learned to never say 100% no chance, but this isn't happening. bruins will either extend
krug for 6 years, or he'll stick around for this season and probably sign with detroit for 7 on july 1.

 

[TD Charlie]

I was ok with moving on from him, whether it be trade or free agency, but the more he plays the more i switch over to the other side.

 

[UncleRico]

Krug really needs to pick it up offensively and defensively in even strength situations. Right now offensively he is tied for 3rd on the team among defenders in points even strength and goalies have the worst save percentage among any defender even strength with krug on the ice.

guy is dynamic on the power play but even strength there is a lot more to be desired considering the offensive opportunities he gets. It’s not like he’s going up against opposing teams best players either. He current ranks 4th among bruins defenders in quality of competition played against.

 

[DarrenBanks56]

with moore getting called up. you gotta think one of moore gryz or krug will be part of a trade this season for some scoring help for the second line.

 

[Bruinswillwin77]

I thought it was awkward when they showed the interview with Krug and was asked if he would take a hometown discount

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

Krug really needs to pick it up offensively and defensively in even strength situations. Right now offensively he is tied for 3rd on the team among defenders in points even strength and goalies have the worst save percentage among any defender even strength with krug on the ice.

guy is dynamic on the power play but even strength there is a lot more to be desired considering the offensive opportunities he gets. It’s not like he’s going up against opposing teams best players either. He current ranks 4th among bruins defenders in quality of competition played against.

honestly if he can only up his game at playoff time... im ok with it

krugs supporters may be unwilling to admit the truth but he is undesized… and honestly he has trouble in his own zone unless hes just super lights out focused. for years I called him a pp specialist and a shakey 3rd pair defender... and thats what he is

but

last year at playoffs this guy turned into superman... for one spectacular playoff run he became a very competent second pair defender... and his hungar to win translated into winning leadership

krug became a secret weapon that can be a difference maker for a winning team

lucic was the same way when he was here... a guy that might look like a liability half the regular season... but could turn it on at playoffs and win a game all by himself

its great to have guys that you know could potentially win games by themselves

im now a converted krug supporter... I want him back... pay him a 7 mill annual hit and limit his term to no more than 4 years... but I dont expect him to suddenly become more than he has ever been. at least not outside playoff time

let him continue as an elite top 5 in the league pp qb… those are very valuable
let his leadership continue to grow
hope his defense stays solid enough he can play sheltered mins

enjoy what he does and just let him save the really special stuff for the games that have meaning

 

[Rubber Biscuit]

with moore getting called up. you gotta think one of moore gryz or krug will be part of a trade this season for some scoring help for the second line.

I'd be pretty shocked if either of them were traded this season

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

I'd be pretty shocked if either of them were traded this season

if we have chara/krug/grezlyck/moore all deserving to play... and only room for 3 left shot dmen... how can you say its a shock if one gets traded?

its not like we can simply play one out of position on the right side... McAvoy/carlo wont be sitting... and that other spot is contested by miller/clifton

if everyone gets healthy at the same time we have 9 legit nhl dmen... and we have 3 kids in the ahl that are able to get some feet wet if they are pressed into action

id be pretty shocked if we didnt trade a dman once everyone is healthy

looking at the odds...

McAvoy... practically 0%... simply put hes the franchise building block going forward
carlo… not quite 0% but would only be available for an impact player coming back
chara... I would probably say 0%... why would he agree to a deal?

krug… the wildcard surrounding krug is his new contract... if we feel we can resign him hes nearly a 0%... it just doesnt make any sense to deal him provided we think we can resign him. even if we didnt think we can resign him, we should still hold onto him as a self-rental. I just really cant see trading him unless its to get back someone like hall

grzelyck… obviously a guy who has impressed us at times. question is, do we want him as a top 4 guy in the future? does he project as an ideal top 4 guy for us? will he outplay the other contenders? hes too good to keep on a million dollar contract. hes going to get paid something close to 3 mill... is that a smart investment if hes a bottom pair guy on the depth chart? chances of him being traded... based on how I think he could be in high demand and valuable... maybe... 35-50%. it wouldnt shock me at all

Clifton... I dont think he has value in a trade but I love his contract... hes a great 5-6 pairing option... he wont be traded anytime soon. less than 10%

miller... we like him as fans... hes on an expiring contract... theres no critical reason we must trade him but we do have some cap issues. he could be in demand around the league. we have done just fine without him. I say the chances he gets traded are over 50% id be mildly surprised if he was still here by deadline

moore… a longer term contract... maybe someone we want to keep for expansion draft? a serviceable mid-pair defender if we wanted to make time for vaakanainen to develop... does it make sense to go with chara/krug/moore as we wait for vaakanainen? I think moore could easily get dealt if we decide to keep grezlyck… to be honest I dont see how we would keep both. chances to get traded around 25% of we trade grezlyck too... but around 60% if we dont trade grez

it just doesnt make sense to keep everyone

kampfer will probably end up on waivers at some point... I dont think he has trade value. instead of losing him for nothing, I think a trade will happen

I actually think 2 trades will happen

miller... would surprise me if he wasnt traded
and one of grez/moore would surprise me if they werent traded

for me... if im king of the world... my plans for the future are...

1/ McAvoy... build around him... find him a great partner... vaakanainen is the very likely guy for the job

1A/ vaakanainen... continue to season him for the job... possibly break him into nhl duty next year... dont trade him... until hes ready grze or moore can hold down the job but we dont need both

2/ brandon carlo needs to be taught a killer instinct... let him get chara as his teacher/mentor/partner as much as possible as he continues to develop into our new shutdown guy

2a/chara holds down this spot for now if im king of the world... maybe krug slides in some?

3/save money with Clifton as 1/2 of the 3rd pair

3a/krug or chara will fill this spot until chara retires... then we have lauzon/zboril competing to get a chance... we are covered with enough options to get the job done

this means miller doesnt have a spot... it means only one of grze or moore have a spot...

kampfer makes the correct amount of cap hit to spend his time in the press box... the other guys make too much

 

[TCB]

For me the Bruins have been playing with their top six defeneman. Will they trade any of their defenseman? One would think so considering their depth down in Providence as well, but I don't want to see Clifton or Grizz moved out of the line-up for John Moore.

On occasion sure, but on a regular basis, Ill take Clifton and Grizz all-day, any-day.

 

[Rubber Biscuit]

if we have chara/krug/grezlyck/moore all deserving to play... and only room for 3 left shot dmen... how can you say its a shock if one gets traded?

its not like we can simply play one out of position on the right side... McAvoy/carlo wont be sitting... and that other spot is contested by miller/clifton

if everyone gets healthy at the same time we have 9 legit nhl dmen... and we have 3 kids in the ahl that are able to get some feet wet if they are pressed into action

id be pretty shocked if we didnt trade a dman once everyone is healthy

looking at the odds...

McAvoy... practically 0%... simply put hes the franchise building block going forward
carlo… not quite 0% but would only be available for an impact player coming back
chara... I would probably say 0%... why would he agree to a deal?

krug… the wildcard surrounding krug is his new contract... if we feel we can resign him hes nearly a 0%... it just doesnt make any sense to deal him provided we think we can resign him. even if we didnt think we can resign him, we should still hold onto him as a self-rental. I just really cant see trading him unless its to get back someone like hall

grzelyck… obviously a guy who has impressed us at times. question is, do we want him as a top 4 guy in the future? does he project as an ideal top 4 guy for us? will he outplay the other contenders? hes too good to keep on a million dollar contract. hes going to get paid something close to 3 mill... is that a smart investment if hes a bottom pair guy on the depth chart? chances of him being traded... based on how I think he could be in high demand and valuable... maybe... 35-50%. it wouldnt shock me at all

Clifton... I dont think he has value in a trade but I love his contract... hes a great 5-6 pairing option... he wont be traded anytime soon. less than 10%

miller... we like him as fans... hes on an expiring contract... theres no critical reason we must trade him but we do have some cap issues. he could be in demand around the league. we have done just fine without him. I say the chances he gets traded are over 50% id be mildly surprised if he was still here by deadline

moore… a longer term contract... maybe someone we want to keep for expansion draft? a serviceable mid-pair defender if we wanted to make time for vaakanainen to develop... does it make sense to go with chara/krug/moore as we wait for vaakanainen? I think moore could easily get dealt if we decide to keep grezlyck… to be honest I dont see how we would keep both. chances to get traded around 25% of we trade grezlyck too... but around 60% if we dont trade grez

it just doesnt make sense to keep everyone

kampfer will probably end up on waivers at some point... I dont think he has trade value. instead of losing him for nothing, I think a trade will happen

I actually think 2 trades will happen

miller... would surprise me if he wasnt traded
and one of grez/moore would surprise me if they werent traded

for me... if im king of the world... my plans for the future are...

1/ McAvoy... build around him... find him a great partner... vaakanainen is the very likely guy for the job

1A/ vaakanainen... continue to season him for the job... possibly break him into nhl duty next year... dont trade him... until hes ready grze or moore can hold down the job but we dont need both

2/ brandon carlo needs to be taught a killer instinct... let him get chara as his teacher/mentor/partner as much as possible as he continues to develop into our new shutdown guy

2a/chara holds down this spot for now if im king of the world... maybe krug slides in some?

3/save money with Clifton as 1/2 of the 3rd pair

3a/krug or chara will fill this spot until chara retires... then we have lauzon/zboril competing to get a chance... we are covered with enough options to get the job done

this means miller doesnt have a spot... it means only one of grze or moore have a spot...

kampfer makes the correct amount of cap hit to spend his time in the press box... the other guys make too much

I’d be shocked because trading away Krug or Gryz in the middle of the season and dealing with the disruption to the dressing room that will cause doesn’t seem like a Sweeney move.

What have we seen in Sweeney’s tenure that should tell us he’s going to make a move like that?

I could see Moore and/or Miller being traded. Krug and Gryz, imo, would present too much of a disruption to what they have going on for Sweeney to deal either one in the middle of the season

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

I’d be shocked because trading away Krug or Gryz in the middle of the season and dealing with the disruption to the dressing room that will cause doesn’t seem like a Sweeney move.

What have we seen in Sweeney’s tenure that should tell us he’s going to make a move like that?

I could see Moore and/or Miller being traded. Krug and Gryz, imo, would present too much of a disruption to what they have going on for Sweeney to deal either one in the middle of the season

moving moore can make more sense... but it really depends on the return being offered

could it disrupt? sure...

any trade can... but teams make trades

krug seems more vital to the leadership of the room... i agree dealing him for that reason alone is less likely to my way of thinking. plus he has a skill no one else does.

is gryz a vital core piece of the lockerroom harmony? ive never heard that. its a fact of life for nhl players sometimes guys get traded. if it helps their chance to win, they accept it

but overall... I feel moore would be the easier piece to give up... im just not sure it makes the most sense. I dont know what is being offered... what the contract demands are...

 

[BAD BOY]

If the rumors are true it’s good news. Will see though, that’s for those that are in favor of this me being one.

 

[Alicat]