Player Discussion Tony DeAngelo: Part V

[Blue Blooded]

Show me a defenseman who isn't a product of their forwards...Bobby Orr? Erik Karlsson? Look at Neal Pionk, he basically keeps the puck warm on Winnipeg's PP and has 25 pts just from that. Carlson basically exists the feed the puck to the GOAT goal-scorer.

I was reading his prospect reports last week and came across the Dan Boyle comparison. People should remember: DeAngelo was supposed to be amazing offensively, it was all that other bullshit that was a knock on him.

Remember reading those a few years back and was surprised there wasn't even chatter about his defensive game, literally the only thing that was listed as a negative was the off ice issues.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Off ice issues and size, but yeah he was wildly viewed as the best OFD in that draft class.

Scouts nailed that. Would anybody take Ekblad over him right now?

 

[EdJovanovski]

Remember reading those a few years back and was surprised there wasn't even chatter about his defensive game, literally the only thing that was listed as a negative was the off ice issues.

It’s funny that his biggest flaw is now one of the heavy driving factors behind how much of an edge/swagger this team plays with and how relentless we are. And is now the Stepan replacement as our charismatic funny lockerroom guy

 

[Blue Blooded]

Off ice issues and size, but yeah he was wildly viewed as the best OFD in that draft class.

Scouts nailed that. Would anybody take Ekblad over him right now?

It’s funny that his biggest flaw is now one of the heavy driving factors behind how much of an edge/swagger this team plays with and how relentless we are. And is now the Stepan replacement as our charismatic funny lockerroom guy

I've gone on the record many times saying the only thing that would've made me hesitate to take him 1OA (if trading down wasn't an option) was his early birthday.

Of course I'd look silly with the way Draisaitl turned out (Pastrnak came out of "nowhere"), but he does have a decent case for being the 3rd best player in the draft (in competition with Ekblad, Nylander, Ehlers and Larkin). Took him a while to get there though, I'd probably have been fired well before that.

 

[aufheben]

So if the season is done, DeAngelo will have officially finished 4th overall in defensemen scoring (while playing under 20:00/GP)

$$$

 

[Rongomania]

So if the season is done, DeAngelo will have officially finished 4th overall in defensemen scoring (while playing under 20:00/GP)

$$$

Deserves it totally. Kid put up a beast year and helped bread and ziba put up two of the best offensive seasons this team has ever seen.

Lock him up

 

[Fugazy]

So if the season is done, DeAngelo will have officially finished 4th overall in defensemen scoring (while playing under 20:00/GP)

$$$

 

[wolfgaze]

Deserves it totally. Kid put up a beast year and helped bread and ziba put up two of the best offensive seasons this team has ever seen.

Lock him up

He'll get traded if he asks for too much money or proves too difficult to negotiate a reasonable contract with...

If he can't shift over to the left side effectively then it makes it even more likely that they'll trade him to bolster our young forward depth...

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

He'll get traded if he asks for too much money or proves too difficult to negotiate a reasonable contract with...

If he can't shift over to the left side effectively then it makes it even more likely that they'll trade him to bolster our young forward depth...

Because Nils is having a good year in Sweden?

Can we let him sign and prove himself over seas first?

 

[LokiDog]

He'll get traded if he asks for too much money or proves too difficult to negotiate a reasonable contract with...

If he can't shift over to the left side effectively then it makes it even more likely that they'll trade him to bolster our young forward depth...

I doubt that and it would be a mistake. Stats aside, he’s a big part of the team’s new identity and the reason they ended up exceeding expectations this year.

 

[Rongomania]

He'll get traded if he asks for too much money or proves too difficult to negotiate a reasonable contract with...

If he can't shift over to the left side effectively then it makes it even more likely that they'll trade him to bolster our young forward depth...

If we take less than a Tkachuk brother or a VERY studly 80+ point projected under 25 year old forward, it's a bad deal ...


60ish point 25 year old rd return A LOT .....

 

[True Blue]

Because Nils is having a good year in Sweden?

Can we let him sign and prove himself over seas first?

The amount of people that are willing to trade a 24 year old defenseman who is doing something not seen around here in 25’years or so due to a kid that is skating in Sweden is astounding.

People scream our “trade him “ bit when asked what a return looks like, grow silent. Aside from a tiny contingent that believe that Gorton should trade DeAngelo for a draft pick.

 

[True Blue]

60ish point 25 year old rd return A LOT .....

To further this, a 60 point defenseman is worth more than a 60 point forward

 

[NYSPORTS]

It is crazy to think that that a majority of the players on the Rangers including ADA have an extra level (or two or three!) of development left in them, including two of the goalies...

With that said, this Rangers team is currently top 10 in the league in ROWs, its scary to think about what the ceiling is for this club moving forward.

so long as a team like the Devils doesn’t have the luck of the Penguins (winning lotteries and drafting generational talent), I think the Rangers are in good shape.

I do think this Flyers team is going to be a problem though.

 

[NYSPORTS]

Yay it finally came in the mail

is it being worn backwards?

 

[EdJovanovski]

is it being worn backwards?

Huh lol

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

The amount of people that are willing to trade a 24 year old defenseman who is doing something not seen around here in 25’years or so due to a kid that is skating in Sweden is astounding.

People scream our “trade him “ bit when asked what a return looks like, grow silent. Aside from a tiny contingent that believe that Gorton should trade DeAngelo for a draft pick.

The only trade I would be happy with, is one where we get a similar player in a different position, in return. Either LHD or center. That would be a trade to address a need.

 

[True Blue]

The only trade I would be happy with, is one where we get a similar player in a different position, in return. Either LHD or center. That would be a trade to address a need.

That is how I see it. IF there MUST be a deal, the return must be a similarly aged and trajectoried player, likely LD. I gave my views on who I wold ask for. No way could you move him for simply a draft pick.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

That is how I see it. IF there MUST be a deal, the return must be a similarly aged and trajectoried player, likely LD. I gave my views on who I wold ask for. No way could you move him for simply a draft pick.

Werenski
Provorov
Hintz
Konecny
Barzal
Connor
Tkachuk
Theodore
Boeser
Heiskanen

That's the type of player you target in a 1-for-1 trade for DeAngelo. I am not saying these will definitely be available, but a 1-for-1 trade is one that has to "hurt" for both teams, while addressing a need

 

[True Blue]

Werenski
Provorov
Hintz
Konecny
Barzal
Connor
Tkachuk
Theodore
Boeser
Heiskanen

That's the type of player you target in a 1-for-1 trade for DeAngelo. I am not saying these will definitely be available, but a 1-for-1 trade is one that has to "hurt" for both teams, while addressing a need

Absolutely. The get for DeAngelo should be enough to make the fanbase wince. I brought up Theodore, Werenski & Connor before. More of an emphasis on the first two.

 

[Leetch3]

again proving to be a #badguy

 

[EdJovanovski]

again proving to be a #badguy

He’s also very involved with skills camps for kids, the Wounded Warrior Project and lots of charity work.

 

[Barnaby]

I never bought into the “off ice problems.” He did a few immature things, but he’s never been out starting bar fights or getting DWI’s.

He has a swagger that fits very well on this club and is something we need more of - not less.

 

[EdJovanovski]

I never bought into the “off ice problems.” He did a few immature things, but he’s never been out starting bar fights or getting DWI’s.

He has a swagger that fits very well on this club and is something we need more of - not less.

It’s hilarious what can earn you problem character status in the NHL compared to other leagues.
But completely agree and you just know with his swagger he’s going to be a playoff performer, he thrives off intensity.

 

[haveandare]

The amount of people that are willing to trade a 24 year old defenseman who is doing something not seen around here in 25’years or so due to a kid that is skating in Sweden is astounding.

People scream our “trade him “ bit when asked what a return looks like, grow silent. Aside from a tiny contingent that believe that Gorton should trade DeAngelo for a draft pick.

I don’t want to trade him personally but the reason some people do is way more because of Fox than Nils, and also due to the cap and the team having big holes in other positions while sitting on 3 very good players at his position.