NFL GDT: Super Bowl 50: (AFC) Denver Broncos vs (NFC) Carolina Panthers - Part III

[InjuredChoker]

As great as Ware and Miller are, the interior monsters make that defense go.

yeah, they dominated maybe the best interior line in the league and stuffed all runs there.

 

[The Drop]

I didnt like the incomplete call but cmon....

 

[Soliloquy of a Dogge]

Dominant almost doesn't do it justice. Congrats! One hell of a defense. Can't wait to watch the Pats open the season in Mile High next year (probably) *fart*

Also aqib just told his wife he was gonna boink her in front of everybody, not sure how well that's gonna go over with her

Thanks CDJ, we've had our disagreements but it's fun talking football with others that know their stuff, always appreciate your insights. I just hope we're able to re-sign Brock, that Mile High curse may be broken if Trevor Siemian's under center

Aqib, man... what a clown. He's straight outta the hood and has me wanting to slap him sometimes, but damned if he doesn't make me laugh (and shake my head).

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

Geez, Newton will never, ever live that split-second hesitation down. The angle of the gif is just too perfect. Emphasize Newton, cut out the 3 guys all rushing towards the ball in his direct line of vision.

(Not defending Newton, noting that the gif cuts out what Newton was seeing)

 

[JRull86]

I said it in week 10 and no one wanted to listen to me. But Newton and the Panthers just didn't strike me as a championship team.

I'll admit I had to eat crow a few times with Carolina this year but at the end of the day when your leader is a giant baby, and your receiving core consisted of Greg Olsen and Ted Ginn Jr? Yikes. Glad that smug ass team lost.

As much as it pains me to say it, congrats to Denver for having an all time defebse , and to hopefully put Manning out on top.

 

[Roboturner913]

I can't help but feel there's a racial component here. I've seen Tom Brady and Mike Krzyzewski scream until spittle is flying from their mouths at refs when calls don't go their teams' way, but that's cast as being a "leader" or being "competitive".

Tonight, the worst I saw from Newton was on the final drive, when there was a questionable late hit in the end zone after he had gotten rid of the ball...that's it. But Newton is "cocky", and that makes this bad.

Because when his team is winning he's all smiles and dancing, rubbing the other team's face in it, stealing jerseys and banners from opposing team's fans. But when his team is losing he sulks and hides and stalks out in the middle of press conferences.

Whatever, I don't care if he scats and be-bops all over the field when he scores. But you can't call for all the attention and glory when things are going good and then run away and hide when things are not so good.

and as a black person (well, half) I'm kind of ticked off that you would equate his race with his immaturity. Steve McNair wouldn't act like that. There's nothing racial about it. People dislike him for some of the same reasons they dislike Jay Cutler and Cutler isn't black.

 

[PALE PWNR]

I can't help but feel there's a racial component here. I've seen Tom Brady and Mike Krzyzewski scream until spittle is flying from their mouths at refs when calls don't go their teams' way, but that's cast as being a "leader" or being "competitive".

Tonight, the worst I saw from Newton was on the final drive, when there was a questionable late hit in the end zone after he had gotten rid of the ball...that's it. But Newton is "cocky", and that makes this bad.

To your first sentence: are you expecting Newton to be smiling when his team is losing? The only people who smile and act goofy when the team is losing are characterized as losers, people who don't care, etc. What is your realistic expectation of Newton?

It has nothing to do with race. It's about being classless, having no respect, humility or humbleness, its about Cam being Cam, which means, me me me me me. Cam would be the first one to rub it in your face that he won, not his team, him. Cam beat the Broncos, Cam got that first down, Cam got the TD, whether it's him saying it or him taking forever to get to the sidelines after he scores, or whether he acts like a sore winner. He got served up some humble pie today and acted like a sore loser. Russell Wilson didn't get up and run away after he lost, neither did Tom Brady, or Kaepernick, or Rodgers, or Roethlisberger, etc. The reason people can't stand his ass is because he acts like an entitled, bratty, child.

And really, we're going to bring up Tom Brady? Yea let's bring up Tom Brady. He throws hissy fits on the sidelines and people get up in arms about it. It's probably a 60-40 split of people that can't stand his ass too. Is it because he's white? No, it's because he has a habit of acting like a child when he loses himself. He probably does get a little bit of leniency from some people though it's true. But that's because he has been there, he's won, a lot.

Of all the positions on the field. It's up to the QB to represent his team, he's the face. He needs to be professional and act like he's been there before even if he hasn't.

Do I expect Cam to be smiling and having a good time on the sidelines while his teams losing? No. But I do expect him to have respect for the people he's played, his fans and the people that have gotten him to where he is. I expect him to show some humility and act like a gentlemen when he loses, ESPECIALLY because he acts the way he does when he's winning. He's a baby. Plain and simple.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

I can't help but feel there's a racial component here. I've seen Tom Brady and Mike Krzyzewski scream until spittle is flying from their mouths at refs when calls don't go their teams' way, but that's cast as being a "leader" or being "competitive".

Tonight, the worst I saw from Newton was on the final drive, when there was a questionable late hit in the end zone after he had gotten rid of the ball...that's it. But Newton is "cocky", and that makes this bad.

To your first sentence: are you expecting Newton to be smiling when his team is losing? The only people who smile and act goofy when the team is losing are characterized as losers, people who don't care, etc. What is your realistic expectation of Newton?



If you look at Newton's antics and feel yourself getting angry, you really should ask yourself why.

Broncos defense played better than any I've seen this year, but given how their offense played, I can't help but feel that this was a game the Panthers could have won, even with the dominant performance of Miller and Ware. Manning was very bad, outside of the 1st drive they were never a serious threat. Congratulations to Manning/the Broncos.

Coach K and Brady have the hardware and equity. Cam doesn't. Simple as that. Plus Wolfe's hit was clean. Like Robo said, you wanna flex and talk trash? Prepare to get it returned on you and learn to deal with it. It has nothing to do with race. Jay Cutler and Tony Romo get crushed by the media for being "losers".

 

[Gene Parmesan]

I didnt like the incomplete call but cmon....

Outside of the incomplete call which was borderline, the officiating was fine.

 

[Hasbro]

 

[tarheelhockey]

rubbing the other team's face in it

When has he rubbed the other team's face in it? He dances for the fans. He points for first downs. He gives kids his TD balls. That's not taunting. It happens every other down in the NFL.

stealing jerseys and banners from opposing team's fans.

Seriously, this again? A Panthers fan waved a banner at him and he playfully tossed it onto the field. Who cares even a tiny little bit?

Whatever, I don't care if he scats and be-bops all over the field when he scores.

It sounds like you do.


They call it the No Fun League, then someone comes along to make it fun and people get the knives out. It's as bad as Ovechkin in the NHL, and now that I've written that I realize the similarity really is striking.

 

[Hasbro]

When has he rubbed the other team's face in it? He dances for the fans. He points for first downs. He gives kids his TD balls. That's not taunting. It happens every other down in the NFL.



Seriously, this again? A Panthers fan waved a banner at him and he playfully tossed it onto the field. Who cares even a tiny little bit?



It sounds like you do.


They call it the No Fun League, then someone comes along to make it fun and people get the knives out. It's as bad as Ovechkin in the NHL, and now that I've written that I realize the similarity really is striking.

Cam Newton gave me no end of enjoyment tonight.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Cam Newton gave me no end of enjoyment tonight.

 

[Roboturner913]

When has he rubbed the other team's face in it? He dances for the fans. He points for first downs. He gives kids his TD balls. That's not taunting. It happens every other down in the NFL.



Seriously, this again? A Panthers fan waved a banner at him and he playfully tossed it onto the field. Who cares even a tiny little bit?



It sounds like you do.


They call it the No Fun League, then someone comes along to make it fun and people get the knives out. It's as bad as Ovechkin in the NHL, and now that I've written that I realize the similarity really is striking.

I actually dont care, whether you believe it or not. This is sidetracked. All I'm saying is, if you want to start talking about why people dont like him, there's plenty to go on that has absolutely zero to do with his skin color. His being black doesn't dictate his behavior any more than me being black means I can't be posting on a hockey message board.

I have always liked him as a player but I do think he has some growing up to do if he is going to be the new torch bearer or whatever for qbs, pretty obvious especially after tonight. The position he plays simply demands a little more. He had his Willie Beamen moment tonight that's for sure. He will have to grow and learn from it.

 

[EpochLink]

They are replaying the strip by Miller on Cam where he refused to dive for the ball, some football media heads are calling him out on why he didn't jump on it

 

[Fish on The Sand]

As a Chiefs fan I felt dirty cheering for the Doncs, but I can't go against Manning. If this is his last game, the Chiefs were the last team to beat him, and that's something to be proud of, especially after the way he continually clowned us in his career.

I'm insanely jealous of the Doncs right now. Congrats to all their fans, this must be a great feeling.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

Because when his team is winning he's all smiles and dancing, rubbing the other team's face in it, stealing jerseys and banners from opposing team's fans. But when his team is losing he sulks and hides and stalks out in the middle of press conferences.

Whatever, I don't care if he scats and be-bops all over the field when he scores. But you can't call for all the attention and glory when things are going good and then run away and hide when things are not so good.

All right. But why are people getting angry over that.

and as a black person (well, half) I'm kind of ticked off that you would equate his race with his immaturity. Steve McNair wouldn't act like that. There's nothing racial about it. People dislike him for some of the same reasons they dislike Jay Cutler and Cutler isn't black.

I'm not. I meant that Newton's race taints the perception of him.

I brought up Tom Brady as an example because, while people do criticize Brady for being a whiner, no one criticizes him for being inconsistent.

Because no one is consistent when they are winning vs. when they are losing. To demand consistency in that scenario is madness.

So, why is Newton being asked this of him?

Though I thought about it more, and I think it has more to do that the people coming up with the insane logic above are coming from the position that "showboating=bad", ergo anything that justifies Newton stopping that is good.

Though that begs the question, why are people getting so worked up over showboating in the first place? Who gives a crap?

 

[aleshemsky83]

Cams a great one but that time be danced for like a full minute after his TD was pretty ridiculous

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

Coach K and Brady have the hardware and equity. Cam doesn't. Simple as that. Plus Wolfe's hit was clean. Like Robo said, you wanna flex and talk trash? Prepare to get it returned on you and learn to deal with it. It has nothing to do with race. Jay Cutler and Tony Romo get crushed by the media for being "losers".

So when Cam is dancing, showboating, acting goofy, etc., do opposing fans (the people who are demanding accountability from Newton) feel as if he is directly trash talking them?

Why would they feel this way.....?

Also Wolfe's hit was clean, I'm pointing out that Newton's lone outburst/showboat of the night was his reaction to that hit/the non-call. Yet it's the same old schlock of people feeling inordinate rage at Newton. It just seems odd to me.

EDIT: Hemsky says he showboated after the TD....I didn't see that on CBS, they kept cutting away from it to the replay of the TD/analysis. Count that as well.

Not saying you do, you clearly don't.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

It has nothing to do with race. It's about being classless, having no respect, humility or humbleness, its about Cam being Cam, which means, me me me me me. Cam would be the first one to rub it in your face that he won, not his team, him. Cam beat the Broncos, Cam got that first down, Cam got the TD, whether it's him saying it or him taking forever to get to the sidelines after he scores, or whether he acts like a sore winner. He got served up some humble pie today and acted like a sore loser. Russell Wilson didn't get up and run away after he lost, neither did Tom Brady, or Kaepernick, or Rodgers, or Roethlisberger, etc. The reason people can't stand his ass is because he acts like an entitled, bratty, child.

And really, we're going to bring up Tom Brady? Yea let's bring up Tom Brady. He throws hissy fits on the sidelines and people get up in arms about it. It's probably a 60-40 split of people that can't stand his ass too. Is it because he's white? No, it's because he has a habit of acting like a child when he loses himself. He probably does get a little bit of leniency from some people though it's true. But that's because he has been there, he's won, a lot.

Of all the positions on the field. It's up to the QB to represent his team, he's the face. He needs to be professional and act like he's been there before even if he hasn't.

Do I expect Cam to be smiling and having a good time on the sidelines while his teams losing? No. But I do expect him to have respect for the people he's played, his fans and the people that have gotten him to where he is. I expect him to show some humility and act like a gentlemen when he loses, ESPECIALLY because he acts the way he does when he's winning. He's a baby. Plain and simple.

You are both really opinionated on this, and seem to expect things from him when he really doesn't owe you anything at all.

Why are you so angry?

 

[Sports Enthusiast]

Panthers/Cam prove the "haters" right

In particular Can himself. The dude deserves all the criticism he gets now to be honest. This team was so cocky and like many cocky teams before them if it doesn't go their way they take the low road. There's no in between. Cam's press conference was a joke. His performance was not good one bit. However he never really blamed himself for making mistakes. He never really congratulated Denver or gave them atleast the credit they deserved for playing really good defense. That reporter asking about the TV comparison and he's like no. Like he wasn't even more impressed by their D or anything. I have no idea how anyone with a straight face could say that. They shut you down all but like one drive where Talib made dumb play after dumb play. They sacked you 6 times I believe and forced 4 turnovers which 3 of were by you and 2 were fumbles. There's another thing he can be criticized for....that fumble late in the game he just stood there pretty much and didn't even fight for the ball. What a leader this guy is! I wish I had the time to hear sports talk radio today. I anticipate a lot of criticism. I can't believe he also shut down the idea of learning from this loss like Denver did 2 years ago. Though I'd argue Denver had a bit of a different circumstance I suppose. They were missing their best defenders and Talib wasn't on the team yet.

 

[aleshemsky83]

Cam Newton definitely doesn't take losses well, but who didn't know that?

Not everyone can handle themselves with the class and grace of Russell Wilson, but there is something to be said for somebody thats actually human.

I mean did you hear Peyton Mannings 2 post game speeches? The guy had an ad memorized and repeated it word for word twice. Gonna go kiss my wife and kid? Check. Thank God? Check. Cap it off by mentioning the smooth taste of budweiser? Check.

 

[kingsholygrail]

Cam Newton definitely doesn't take losses well, but who didn't know that?

Not everyone can handle themselves with the class and grace of Russell Wilson, but there is something to be said for somebody thats actually human.

I mean did you hear Peyton Mannings 2 post game speeches? The guy had an ad memorized and repeated it word for word twice. Gonna go kiss my wife and kid? Check. Thank God? Check. Cap it off by mentioning the smooth taste of budweiser? Check.

Why are you trying to make this about Manning? And he's been there for disappointing Super Bowl losses including getting absolutely spanked by the Seahawks only a couple years ago yet he managed to suck it up and do the press conference without coming off as a baby.

 

[Voight]

So the two biggest questions people had about the Panthers in the summer (OL and WR) show up today in the biggest game of the season. They did so well up until this point. Damn.

The Broncos D is on another level though.

I said from the start their patch-work receiving core (aside from Olsen) would be eaten up against the Broncos D. Your gonna need at least one elite receiver to even try to get past them.

 

[Voight]

I said it in week 10 and no one wanted to listen to me. But Newton and the Panthers just didn't strike me as a championship team.

I'll admit I had to eat crow a few times with Carolina this year but at the end of the day when your leader is a giant baby, and your receiving core consisted of Greg Olsen and Ted Ginn Jr? Yikes. Glad that smug ass team lost.

As much as it pains me to say it, congrats to Denver for having an all time defebse , and to hopefully put Manning out on top.

I said pretty much the same thing and people laughed cause #undefeated.

Nice to see someone put Newton and the Panthers in their place tho.