Proposal: Seth Jones for M. Marner

[Bruins1993]

This is a rip off for Columbus. Nobody wants that contract ...

 

[Jerkbait]

The GM in Columbus is not childish and blocks the number after a proposal he or she disagrees with immature behavior like blocking number only exists on the board. Kekäläinen may say no to the proposal, but he is a professional.

Dubas doesnt even make the call!!! No need to block.

 

[thadd]

I say no thanks and offer Nylander.

Fixed it for you.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

wow he scored him by 21 points in 1 more game when Werenski was only 20 and 21? How about we focus on the now as in this season. Nothing gets more overrated than certain defenseman who can play D but aren't that great on offense so people prep them up to be top 5 defender in the league in this thread which honestly has to be joke from my perspective.

Jones is better than Werenski in the here and now. And it's not even close.

 

[Kuznetsnow]

What does Marner do exactly to be worth 5.5 million more than Jones? You could have Jones and Rielly for Marner's sticker price

 

[Jerkbait]

What does Marner do exactly to be worth 5.5 million more than Jones? You could have Jones and Rielly for Marner's sticker price

Well about 50 more points...... but in all seriousness jones will be getting a BIG raise and the gap be closer. Marner is not cheap but 94 points comes with a price tag especially when your 22.

 

[Kuznetsnow]

Well about 50 more points...... but in all seriousness jones will be getting a BIG raise and the gap be closer. Marner is not cheap but 94 points comes with a price tag especially when your 22.

So you get to pay 5 million for the equivalent of a Kevin Labanc difference? Even less considering the year before Marner barely edged out Jones?

Why would Columbus care how many points Toronto squeezed out of Marner playing him with Tavares and on their PP unit?

 

[LeafsNation75]

Why would Columbus care how many points Toronto squeezed out of Marner playing him with Tavares and on their PP unit?

I'm wondering which is going to be why Marner gets the points he does. It's either that happened because he plays with Tavares all of last season and now it's because he plays with Matthews. However other people say Marner is the driver of those lines and why they are getting goals.

 

[Kuznetsnow]

I'm wondering which is going to be why Marner gets the points he does. It's either that happened because he plays with Tavares all of last season and now it's because he plays with Matthews. However other people say Marner is the driver of those lines and why they are getting goals.

Yeah John Tavares and Auston Matthews were nothing until Mitch Marner came along

Either way good on them for milking much more money out of the leafs than any comparable players did with their teams

 

[FerrisRox]

Except Werenski isn't inept and is actually pretty good on D so your point makes no sense? I've watched the Jackets before I hardly notice much of a difference between either of the D-man that makes a clear gap between them.

Wait - you've watched them before and you hardly noticed a difference between them?

Well why didn't you say that in the first place! If I had known you've watched the Jackets before I never would have made that claim about Seth Jones.

Thanks for clearing all that up.

 

[FerrisRox]

I'm wondering which is going to be why Marner gets the points he does. It's either that happened because he plays with Tavares all of last season and now it's because he plays with Matthews. However other people say Marner is the driver of those lines and why they are getting goals.

So why did Matthews get goals last year when Marner wasn't playing with him? How does that work?

 

[LeafsNation75]

So why did Matthews get goals last year when Marner wasn't playing with him? How does that work?

My reply was more of how people think of Marner. Some say Tavares was the reason he got 94 points last season and others say it was Marner who made sure Tavares had 47 goals. Now that he's on a 5v5 line with Matthews some people say Marner is the reason why he's scoring at a higher rate than usual, where as others say Matthews would be doing that no matter who was on his line.

 

[The Kingslayer]

I still dont understand why the Preds ever got rid of Jones especially for Ryjo.

 

[Leaf Fans]

This is a rip off for Columbus. Nobody wants that contract ...

Marner wants it.

 

[Leaf Fans]

So you get to pay 5 million for the equivalent of a Kevin Labanc difference? Even less considering the year before Marner barely edged out Jones?

What?

 

[Pure Slaughter Value]

I'm wondering which is going to be why Marner gets the points he does. It's either that happened because he plays with Tavares all of last season and now it's because he plays with Matthews. However other people say Marner is the driver of those lines and why they are getting goals.

Mitch Marner is a mystery wrapped in an enigma.

 

[Leaf Fans]

What does Marner do exactly to be worth 5.5 million more than Jones? You could have Jones and Rielly for Marner's sticker price

He negotiates better.

 

[McVespa99]

Columbus might do this if TO included their next 2 firsts or 1 first and retained 25% on Marners contract. Otherwise I cant see how they would even consider it.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Columbus might do this if TO included their next 2 firsts or 1 first and retained 25% on Marners contract. Otherwise I cant see how they would even consider it.

Obviously they would do it for a massive over-payment as the Leafs would do it if Columbus included their next 2 firsts

 

[McVespa99]

Obviously they would do it for a massive over-payment as the Leafs would do it if Columbus included their next 2 firsts

I dont see it as a massive overpayment. Jones is waaaay more valuable at this point than Marner. Marner is a really good player but a small playmaking winger is never going to come close to a guy like Jones. Unless the winger is a legit mega star. Which Marner is not.

 

[Leaf Fans]

I dont see it as a massive overpayment. Jones is waaaay more valuable at this point than Marner. Marner is a really good player but a small playmaking winger is never going to come close to a guy like Jones. Unless the winger is a legit mega star. Which Marner is not.

I see it as just that. Neither player is a legit mega star.

 

[LeafsNation75]

I dont see it as a massive overpayment. Jones is waaaay more valuable at this point than Marner. Marner is a really good player but a small playmaking winger is never going to come close to a guy like Jones. Unless the winger is a legit mega star. Which Marner is not.

Just curious what does Marner need to do to be considered a mega star? Is getting 94 points not good enough? In the end he's still an elite winger or do you even question that?

 

[Leaf Fans]

Just curious what does Marner need to do to be considered a mega star? Is getting 94 points not good enough? In the end he's still an elite winger or do you even question that?

He is a star and an elite winger as Jones is a star and an elite defenceman, but to me, a mega star is McDavid, Crosby, Ovechkin.

 

[LeafsNation75]

He is a star and an elite winger as Jones is a star and an elite defenceman, but to me, a mega star is McDavid, Crosby, Ovechkin.

That's a fair assessment.

 

[TheUltimateOiler]

I feel like Jones value is in the ballpark of
(Not in any particular order but including contracts)
Draisaitl
Larkin
Pasternak
Mathews
scheifele
Petersson
Rantanen

Doesn't have the value of MacKinnon or Barkov because of contracts.