Not at all. But even neutral fans can see marner is an exceptional young talent that us now signed and wants to be in Toronto . Add to this the tennis built around him and Matthew's and it caters to his play. He lead them in scoring last season and was in pace for 100 point this year . Even neutral fans know it would be ridiculous to mess with this by acquiring a player who is debatable equal. The player you mentioned may or may not be a 1D on his respective team but would struggle to unseat morgan as leafs 1D. Marner will most likey retire a leaf and I think all sides are happy with that. Very very few players that dubas would exchange for marner .
Proposal: Seth Jones for M. Marner
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Agreed give up the marner notion cause Toronto isnt trading for Jones. I would be shocked if Edmonton did this either
I’ve never said otherwise. The only thing I’ve noticed is the number of homers seems larger on the leaf side if I’m being honest
That’s my point, that a lot of opinions changed after the signings. That’s why this “look at the leaf hate, they changed opinions” narrative gets exhausting. And yes there have been posters that said “wouldn’t trade him for anyone” I am aware that’s a small small percentile, but the post I responded to was talking about a small small percentile as well
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I agree that the idea of Leaf hate gets overused on the board, but "that is why everyone hates Leaf fans" is a thought terminating cliche on the board. There were also posters who get confused as to what board they are on on the main boards when there is a Leaf related thread. Just compare the excellent Tom Wilson assist thread with the Auston Matthews one. Anyway, I agree Leaf hate is an over used defense mechanism on the board,though it is certainly present in some posters.
Two and a half years is not a substantial age difference. Not in sports. Not in life. Nowhere.
I wonder if people aged 16 years old can legally buy alcohol anywhere in Canada...
What does that have to do with anything?liquor laws still don't make the difference between 16 and 18 substantial.
It shows 2 and a half years certainly does make a difference in life counter to what you said
Welp, can't do a Marner/Jones trade anyways because 16 year olds are younger than 18 year olds and the drinking age is 18 in Canada.
It was a total bullshit comment by me I just hate when people speak in absolutes/extremes when it doesnt make sense to do so
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Sorry but that's just wrong and in the NHL it's very substantial. Think about how long the average NHL career is and how few prime years players have and then get back to me (hopefully to retract your comment) Two and a half years for a star player just coming into his prime is massive!
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Why ?
We have defensive depth now.
We have Ethan bear, Bouchard , Adam Larsson Matt benning. Jones is awesome but drai is top 5. Even rated by tsn.
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Really?
I'm going to guess you're an Oiler fan. So just as an example, what's more valuable:
1 - 25 year old Connor McDavid
2 - 22.5 year old Connor McDavid (projected career and prime 2.5 years longer)
If you really don't see any difference here then that's fine, I'd be curious as to what your reasoning is though. I personally think it's rather obvious than option 2 is clearly better as you're getting 2.5 extra years of a star player.
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If they could afford to take on Marner's enormous contract, why would they not be able to pony up for Jones?
Their General Manager isn't going to get bent over for nearly $11 million in a negotiation, and even if he did, in your scenario, they are willing to pay one player that cap hit.
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It doesn't matter what they're able to do if Jones decides he'd rather play somewhere else.
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Nothing you say will convince me that two years is a substantial age difference in any facet of life. Have to agree to disagree.
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My nieces and nephews would disagree, but that's getting pretty far from the point.
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The issue isn't ages, it's that the ages translate into career length. For example, take 2 players with a 2 year age difference:
Player A - projected to play for X more years, 3 of those being prime years
Player B - projected to play for X+2 more years, 5 of those being prime years
NHL careers are short, the portion of careers where players are in their primes is shorter still. All other things being equal, player B is much more valuable and those two extra years make it a classic no-brainer.
My apologies for making one last attempt to make things clear. You've said nothing I say will convince you and that's fine, agree to disagree.
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