Kudo Shinichi
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I hope he gets better treatment than Sergachev. Russians are not really welcome while Julien is the coach
Sergachev played 1 game under Julien...
I hope he gets better treatment than Sergachev. Russians are not really welcome while Julien is the coach
Habs used to have a ton of Russians in the roster but as soon as Julien became the HC Markov, Radulov, Sergachev, Emelin all gone, and Galchenyuk and Scherbak the year later so it's easy to see the narrative. It can't be that black and white though, Kovy seemed to enjoy his short tenure under Julien for example. I'm so excited by these news, Romanov is a beast.
- Radulov was on the top line.
- Markov was on the top pair.
- Emelin was in the top-4.
- Kovalchuk was in the top-6.
Radulov and Markov leaving were not Julien wanting them out. Bergevin was negotiating with both to keep them. We know how that ended up, but that had nothing to do with Julien.
Emelin was lost to expansion draft. At that time, Emelin and Plekanec were both overpaid for what they were bringing to the table. Bergevin exposed both of them to the draft hoping one would be taken and get one of those two heavy contracts off the books. Vegas chose Emelin. So again, nothing to do with Julien.
Galchenyuk was on his way to being something special right when he hurt is knee in that collision with Kopitar. After that, it wasn't just Julien who didn't trust him. Therrien didn't. Tocchet didn't in Arizona. And it wasn't long before he fell lower in the line-up in Pittsburgh to the point Rutherford openly admitted that he was looking to trade him and then moved him to Minnesota. I think that has more to do with the player than it does Julien and Russians.
We also saw how Scherbak panned out. It's unfortunate as his development wasn't properly managed. But when he played under Julien, he wasn't forcing the coach's hand. And he went to LA and nothing became of that. Even in the KHL, he was a disappointment.
So I really don't see anything that justifies the Julien-doesn't-like-Russians narrative.
Unless you want to twist that Julien not learning to speak Russin speaks highly of his disdain for Russians, I also don't see any anti-Russian evidence surrounding Julien.
I'm not particularly fond of the coach but, this makes little sense as a theory.
- Radulov was on the top line.
- Markov was on the top pair.
- Emelin was in the top-4.
- Kovalchuk was in the top-6.
Radulov and Markov leaving were not Julien wanting them out. Bergevin was negotiating with both to keep them. We know how that ended up, but that had nothing to do with Julien.
Emelin was lost to expansion draft. At that time, Emelin and Plekanec were both overpaid for what they were bringing to the table. Bergevin exposed both of them to the draft hoping one would be taken and get one of those two heavy contracts off the books. Vegas chose Emelin. So again, nothing to do with Julien.
Galchenyuk was on his way to being something special right when he hurt is knee in that collision with Kopitar. After that, it wasn't just Julien who didn't trust him. Therrien didn't. Tocchet didn't in Arizona. And it wasn't long before he fell lower in the line-up in Pittsburgh to the point Rutherford openly admitted that he was looking to trade him and then moved him to Minnesota. I think that has more to do with the player than it does Julien and Russians.
We also saw how Scherbak panned out. It's unfortunate as his development wasn't properly managed. But when he played under Julien, he wasn't forcing the coach's hand. And he went to LA and nothing became of that. Even in the KHL, he was a disappointment.
So I really don't see anything that justifies the Julien-doesn't-like-Russians narrative.
What kind of offensive production we can dream of Romanov in is prime?
It's hard to say at this point as his play in the KHL doesn't leave much to go off since his rookie year they really did not do him any favors by at times having way too long in between shifts, with different partners and playing one shift at LD and the next at RD at times. This year he seemed to get more consistent shifts and at RD but still didn't get much TOI.
So the only thing we have to really go off in the WJC's and we have seen others do well there only to struggle in the NHL. Collberg, Kristo, Leblanc, Kostitsyn's, and maybe Poehling who last summer fans were hyping him up like crazy despite a few of us saying that they were overrating him due to his WJC's.
With Romanov it's much tougher to say, I don't think he will ever mistaken for Markov but I do think he's going to a very good NHLer, someone that does most things well, a very complete 2 way blueliner that brings a solid physical game and with his great skating/mobility and smarts he's 100% for sure going to be a fan favorite as i have no doubt of that. I just don't know how good the offense will be. In his prime, I don't know if he will be a consistent 10-20 pts, 20-30 pts, 30-40 pts. I would wait and see how next year goes, it should give us a better idea of what he brings.
A good skater that passes well and supports the rush in a dynamic fashion? Should be good for the transition game and help provide offense on a speed-oriented game plan. He might not score 10 goals but, he might get a helluva lot more assists than we think.
- Radulov was on the top line.
- Markov was on the top pair.
- Emelin was in the top-4.
- Kovalchuk was in the top-6.
Radulov and Markov leaving were not Julien wanting them out. Bergevin was negotiating with both to keep them. We know how that ended up, but that had nothing to do with Julien.
Emelin was lost to expansion draft. At that time, Emelin and Plekanec were both overpaid for what they were bringing to the table. Bergevin exposed both of them to the draft hoping one would be taken and get one of those two heavy contracts off the books. Vegas chose Emelin. So again, nothing to do with Julien.
Galchenyuk was on his way to being something special right when he hurt is knee in that collision with Kopitar. After that, it wasn't just Julien who didn't trust him. Therrien didn't. Tocchet didn't in Arizona. And it wasn't long before he fell lower in the line-up in Pittsburgh to the point Rutherford openly admitted that he was looking to trade him and then moved him to Minnesota. I think that has more to do with the player than it does Julien and Russians.
We also saw how Scherbak panned out. It's unfortunate as his development wasn't properly managed. But when he played under Julien, he wasn't forcing the coach's hand. And he went to LA and nothing became of that. Even in the KHL, he was a disappointment.
So I really don't see anything that justifies the Julien-doesn't-like-Russians narrative.
Like most players, it will depend on the type of system the team runs and the quality of players he'll play alongside.He’s produced very well at the international stage in prominent ice time. People are hung up on the fact he doesn’t have a lot of points in the KHL playing a limited role, in a league that is also tough for young defensemen to put points up in.
He’s more offensively gifted than most people are giving him credit for.
Agreed... but this organization will do anything, even miss the playoffs, for French players. Seriously...- Radulov was on the top line.
- Markov was on the top pair.
- Emelin was in the top-4.
- Kovalchuk was in the top-6.
Radulov and Markov leaving were not Julien wanting them out. Bergevin was negotiating with both to keep them. We know how that ended up, but that had nothing to do with Julien.
Emelin was lost to expansion draft. At that time, Emelin and Plekanec were both overpaid for what they were bringing to the table. Bergevin exposed both of them to the draft hoping one would be taken and get one of those two heavy contracts off the books. Vegas chose Emelin. So again, nothing to do with Julien.
Galchenyuk was on his way to being something special right when he hurt is knee in that collision with Kopitar. After that, it wasn't just Julien who didn't trust him. Therrien didn't. Tocchet didn't in Arizona. And it wasn't long before he fell lower in the line-up in Pittsburgh to the point Rutherford openly admitted that he was looking to trade him and then moved him to Minnesota. I think that has more to do with the player than it does Julien and Russians.
We also saw how Scherbak panned out. It's unfortunate as his development wasn't properly managed. But when he played under Julien, he wasn't forcing the coach's hand. And he went to LA and nothing became of that. Even in the KHL, he was a disappointment.
So I really don't see anything that justifies the Julien-doesn't-like-Russians narrative.
I think a Markov level is completely unrealistic. Good defensively, maybe 30 points a season. Ekholm, Kronwall style player maybe. Reliable in his own end and can contribute offensively at times.What's his potential?
Lowest: Emelin with an offensive touch?
Highest: Markov with a bit of Emelin in him? (That would be amazing)
How would you compare the new savior of the franchise?
It happens with every young player unfortunately and when they don't become a star, they are called busts.I swear this guy is becoming wayyy overated. Lets see how he plays on the smaller, faster ice first.
I don't think he has a physical game like Emelin.What's his potential?
Lowest: Emelin with an offensive touch?
Highest: Markov with a bit of Emelin in him? (That would be amazing)
How would you compare the new savior of the franchise?
Agreed... but this organization will do anything, even miss the playoffs, for French players. Seriously...
Man, get real, we are in 2020, Quebecer aren't french...Agreed... but this organization will do anything, even miss the playoffs, for French players. Seriously...
Same guy who said Zach Fucale was a cant miss prospect.
I swear this guy is becoming wayyy overated. Lets see how he plays on the smaller, faster ice first.
Post full of itself here..Agreed... but this organization will do anything, even miss the playoffs, for French players. Seriously...