King Pavel
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- Apr 27, 2014
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Quick Kenny, trade for Edler for our 5th round pick while Vancouver's having their liquidation "everything half off" sale!
Oh so now it's Hollands fault ovechkin is poor defensively
He'd be our 3rd best D at worst.
No, it's the system he's been in that has allowed him to become a defensive floater.
PS Holland is responsible for only about 95% of the wrong in the world.
Why would he have to play on the bottom pairing? He could bump Smith down and Kindl out.
Why would he have to play on the bottom pairing? He could bump Smith down and Kindl out.
Oh maybe Ovie doesn't give a **** about playing D?
I don't care what pairing he plays on. He'll bump someone that sucks out of the lineup.
Kronwall-Ericsson
Garrison-DeKeyser
Smith-Lashoff
That's a silly way of thinking.If the defenceman is LH I don't care how good he is or what he gets paid we don't want or need him.
And it's the managements job to make him give a ****. It turns out coaches' have to motivate their players to do more than just what they want to.
If Holland ever grow a pair of balls made of steel and he was under Babcock and Datsyuk for a couple seasons I would bet that he would become one of the better 2 way players in the league. The whole Washington system for a lot of years was '5 forwards, lets out score them, **** our goalie'.
That would probably end the same or worse than last year.
DeKeyser would regress greatly switching to the other side of the ice and having to do everything backwards from the way he's played his entire career.
Lashoff would be in the line-up full time, and because of Garrison's salary we likely would lose the ability to re-sign Alfie or to add a forward to replace him. We'd be pushed to the cap adding a defenceman that doesn't address the problem of having all LH defenceman.
If the defenceman is LH I don't care how good he is or what he gets paid we don't want or need him.
That's a silly way of thinking.
Yes, handedness is an issue, but so is talent. Kindl and Lashoff aren't regular NHL defensemen.Having no right handed D is why our PP has regressed. Its why we our transition game has gotten worse, and its why we constantly have defenceman looking out of place.
On every pairing there is a guy who is playing a position that is unnatural and difficult to adjust to. Other than Ericsson, none of our defenceman have been very good at the transition.
Adding a righty, and promoting Marchenko would make a massive difference to our team. Bringing in another lefty is just compounding the problem.
Having no right handed D is why our PP has regressed. Its why we our transition game has gotten worse, and its why we constantly have defenceman looking out of place.
On every pairing there is a guy who is playing a position that is unnatural and difficult to adjust to. Other than Ericsson, none of our defenceman have been very good at the transition.
Adding a righty, and promoting Marchenko would make a massive difference to our team. Bringing in another lefty is just compounding the problem.
Yes, handedness is an issue, but so is talent. Kindl and Lashoff aren't regular NHL defensemen.
Do you think if you inserted Suter (a lefty), this team's transition game would still suck?
There once was a player who scored 65 goals and 155 points in a season that was considered a defensive floater by one of the greatest coaches in professional sports history. He even got threatened with being traded over it. That guy under the right system turned into the gold standard for two-way players.
Steve Yzerman doesn't think he has changed much at all. "When you come into the league as an offensive player," he says, "people think you can't play defense."
Trottier, who battled Yzerman for more than a decade before retiring in 1994, knows better. "Who are these people who say that?" Trottier says. "I played against him back then and I remember him killing penalties, hustling and back-checking. I guess no one else does."
"I've always thought of Stevie as a good defensive player," says Pang, who played midget hockey with Yzerman. "People forget that he played his junior hockey at Peterborough, where you have to play both ends of the rink. And they forget that when he arrived in Detroit, the team wasn't very good, and they needed his offensive skills."
But you don't want to move DeKeyser over to his natural side? He'd probably benefit from moving over there not regress.
No one is going to improve it to the level it was at with Lidstrom and Rafalski. Obviously.I think it would improve, but not by the amount we would like, or to the level it was at with Lidstrom and Rafalski.
It would also mean one of him or Kronwall would have to play on the 2nd pair because neither one plays on the right side.
Even though he's older and a lot less talented I think Boyle would improve our transition game more than Suter.
I do want him to move back over to his side, he was far better this year when he played there, but due to our complete lack of right handers he kept getting moved back to the right.