MarioBros83
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Well, it's the logo of our most famous beer after all.Why does that Bear have the expression of trusting a fart that wasn't a fart while having the runs?
Well, it's the logo of our most famous beer after all.Why does that Bear have the expression of trusting a fart that wasn't a fart while having the runs?
They never should've let Archibald go to begin with.
Since 2017.
Tanev: 225(GP), 37(G), 41(A), 78(P)
Archibald: 192(GP), 33(G), 27(A), 61(P)
Obviously, Tanev is the better player. He's also signed at $3.5M over the next 4 years. Archibald is making $1.5M a season for one more season. I'm not saying that intangibles Tanev brings don't go unnoticed, I'm just saying when you're a cap strapped team, you shouldn't go out and commit that long to a bottom-six guy.
My original thoughts were that Blueger should be the 3c and Rodrigues the 4c, as having an energy type of 4C is what we could use, to just come in after the 3rd line and wear down the other team and then have L1 and L2 rotate in and do damage.
I had no issue with Blue being the 3C. My problem has always been not having another solid bottom 6 center. Weve needed one since the Ole Man retired. So
I think you need someone better than DOC as the LW but I agree with you on McCann and ERod.
I think they need basically another Tanev clone for that line. Someone like Boone Jenner would be awesome IMO.
I wonder if the Pens can somehow angle Appleton Estates as a sponsor if we can get him.Would rather target Appleton, Lowry is a UFA at the end of the season.
I had no issue with Blue being the 3C. My problem has always been not having another solid bottom 6 center. Weve needed one since the Ole Man retired. So
My original thoughts were that Blueger should be the 3c and Rodrigues the 4c, as having an energy type of 4C is what we could use, to just come in after the 3rd line and wear down the other team and then have L1 and L2 rotate in and do damage.
But that required support with Rodrigues. For me, Jankowski doesn't do enough of the "grinding" that you need from a 4c, he's 6'4" but he doesn't play it often enough. Lafferty has consistency issues, having a center that has consistency issues in all facets of his game as well is a bad fit.
Rodrigues, for his inconsistencies, is at least consistent in his effort and plays a solid 2-way game no matter what, he rest of his game you wish he was better offensively, but the one thing he does well is play the cycle game and a good dump/chase game. Ideally, still not what you would want and if you put McCann there, you're wasting ZAR with him without a replacement for Blue's line and Blue's line deserves more than those assignments again.
It's the 4th line. We don't need anything. It is okay if we add but it isn't a necessity. I am fine with any of the 6 forwards we have now outside of our top 9 filling those spots. McCann is a 3rd line forward going to play 4th line minutes so that is a great start to a 4th line. Players like Rodriguez, Sceviour, O'Connor, Lafferty, and Jankowski can fight it out for the other two spots. We are talking 6-8 minutes a game and McCann with two of them makes a decent 4th line.
Penguins literally won 2 cups with a 4th line that was thrown together, people can wax poetic now about how great it was, but at the time, there was a few of us trying to convince the masses here that Cullen was a good signing and not a bad pick-up and then we had Fehr and they brought up kids like Kuhnhackl and Wilson.Who is the last team that won with a 4th line that had multiple players like that? Serious question.
I really have no clue how you could have watched the shitshow that has been the Penguins 4th line this year and think "yeah they're fine as long as they have McCann on their line". Like the 4th line is getting downright slaughtered right now. That's not an exaggeration, they're getting abused.
See and thats where I stopped agreeing. I dont have an issue with Blue and Erod individually, but I do have an issue with both of them being our bottom 6 centers. Theres no real room for error. If one or both struggle, or if theres injuries, you are scrambling.
Dont get my started on Jankowski. I wasnt impressed with the signing and for the exact reasons everyone is turning on him now. Hes as soft as the Texas power system, fades away far too often in games when the intensity ramps up, doesnt bring anything offensively and is replacement level defensively.
Penguins literally won 2 cups with a 4th line that was thrown together, people can wax poetic now about how great it was, but at the time, there was a few of us trying to convince the masses here that Cullen was a good signing and not a bad pick-up and then we had Fehr and they brought up kids like Kuhnhackl and Wilson.
At the time, the sentiment towards Cullen was hilarious and I was a very big supporter of Cullen being a solid veteran presence on the team. Fehr came in with an injury and Cullen took advantage of the opportunity.Fehr and Cullen are both better than anything the Penguins currently have internally to throw on the 4th line though.
Like sure, if you get another McCann type of player and make the 4th line McCann-McCann-ERod, it's probably fine. But just throwing out crap with McCann is very likely going to yield a very bad 4th line, because what we have now is a ghastly bad 4th line.
Archibald is a bottom tier 4th line player and no better than Rodriguez and to compare him in any way to Tanev is actually laughable. Archibald is not an upgrade on any of the players we have now. Trading McCann for him is terrible. If we are trading McCann it won't be for a journeyman 4th liner.
I’m down for a McCann-Archibald swap.
BART
DOC-Jank-Archibald
How do you propose to fix the 2nd line if Geno continues to not play very well?
We have a lot of similar types on this team, which worked for the 2 cups but since then, the teams that won cups had a lot more ornery types sprinkled into the line-up while the Pens couldn't figure out which versions they needed - Reaves was too enforcer type for them, Oleksiak was miscast, Gudbranson was a great fighter but that cap hit and play wasn't worth it, etc.I’m all for getting an agitator who’s got some mitts. I’ve always thought a shit-stirrer is more effective here than an enforcer.
But if we bring in an agitator, Coach Todd better get that PK up to snuff (which frankly he should do anyway). It’s nuts that it’s so bad, given the professed amount of speed on the roster.