I'd try to swing Simon + Galchenyuk + 3rd for Athanasiou
I think that's a pretty significant overpayment. AA is only like 6 months younger and doesnt have half the track record of Galchenyuk. Being RFA vs UFA obviously adds values but a third and Simon is more than Id be willing to add.
Simon + Galchenyuk is who I initially had, but considering even on a down year, AA is on a 42pt pace when the guy is capable of scoring 30, is blazing fast and plays all 3 forward positions...I think that's a pretty significant overpayment. AA is only like 6 months younger and doesnt have half the track record of Galchenyuk. Being RFA vs UFA obviously adds values but a third and Simon is more than Id be willing to add.
Not an argument when we give up less actual goals than we did last year.
Track record, shmack record. Athanasiou may not have Galchenyuk's draft pedigree, but he's been more effective for 2 or 3 years now, even factoring in that he's bombing defensively at the moment. Most-relevant is that he looks like a stylistic fit for Sullivan, whereas Galchenyuk doesn't.
I haven't been as critical of Galchenyuk's season as most other posters. It's not that he's not trying--he just kind of looks like a fish out of water here, and there's a real possibility that isn't his fault, but in the event that the Red Wings would give me AA for Galch, Simon and a 3rd, I take that, no questions asked. There's too much upside to not play that hand.
I've been pretty hard on Petts the past month or so, and he's earned it imo, but I do think he's got room to grow. But he does need to grow in order to be worth keeping around for the long haul. He was really solid last season, but he's had a Gudbranson-esque plummet through 25-ish games so far. He's genuinely stunk for way too many games, and while I know he's young and there will be growing pains, I don't want to pay for potential when we're not sure that potential can be reached yet.The most I would want to see Pettersson get is what this team gave Oleksiak, I don't feel he's earned more than that as of this point in the season.
Track record, shmack record. Athanasiou may not have Galchenyuk's draft pedigree, but he's been more effective for 2 or 3 years now, even factoring in that he's bombing defensively at the moment. Most-relevant is that he looks like a stylistic fit for Sullivan, whereas Galchenyuk doesn't.
We'd need to find a team able to take on that kind of cap, that's building for the future, and they have a significant asset that's a great fit to send to us. That's a pretty specific set of factors.What can we get for a Gally, Bjugstad and 1st package? Probably not Hall worthy, but surely there's some top 6 talent that could sure up the second and third lines
i think there is a bigger need for a defense man than a forward when healthily although with this years draft class we sure could use a few high picks.
I mean, sure. But if we can get Fowler that gives us an insane top four.
I think there are two reasons as to why this may be happening. First off the emergence of Marino kinda makes MP look ''more ordinary'' in comparison (if you get what I mean). And secondly you would hope MP would progress a little from last season as he has more time here within the system. I don't necessarily see that step forward in his game. I don't think he's been bad, but there have been games where he was decidedly out of position or pinched when he shouldn't have a time or two more per game than last season. Last season I thought his positioning and ability to read the situation was more sound. Maybe he's trying to do too much.
I'd try to swing Simon + Galchenyuk + 3rd for Athanasiou.
Track record, shmack record. Athanasiou may not have Galchenyuk's draft pedigree, but he's been more effective for 2 or 3 years now, even factoring in that he's bombing defensively at the moment. Most-relevant is that he looks like a stylistic fit for Sullivan, whereas Galchenyuk doesn't.
I haven't been as critical of Galchenyuk's season as most other posters. It's not that he's not trying--he just kind of looks like a fish out of water here, and there's a real possibility that isn't his fault, but in the event that the Red Wings would give me AA for Galch, Simon and a 3rd, I take that, no questions asked. There's too much upside to not play that hand.
I really think the Pens need to make the Athanasiou for Galchenyuk thing happen. AA is an RFA, on his last year making 3m and is a team worse +/- right now. Having an absolute stinker of a season in that regard. He's also having a down year compared to last season (pace for 42pts).
I'd try to swing Simon + Galchenyuk + 3rd for Athanasiou.
Then JR just needs to move Bjugstad (JJ if we're super lucky) for something that this team can actually use and we're solid.
I read their board, they think Gal sucks (duh), but I think adding Simon makes taking Galchenyuk for the rest of the season to see if he can turn it around and getting a top 9 player like Simon might make it worth their while?
Petterson was on the ice for 31 ES goals against last season for us in 57 games. This season so far it is 25 against in 30 games, and we give up less than we did last year.
I think it is visible also, him being beaten 1 on 1 and for pace considerably more this season. He started out well enough I thought, but seemed to be really sliding in November, IMO. I sure think it is wrong to say he is playing exactly the same as last season.
Where do people see Schultz on this blueline once we get healthy? (Yeah, I know. "Healthy.")
Where do people see Schultz on this blueline once we get healthy? (Yeah, I know. "Healthy.")
Where do people see Schultz on this blueline once we get healthy? (Yeah, I know. "Healthy.")
Can Zucker think the game well enough for Geno with Rust on the opposite side? Rust is a great component for Jake-Geno because he has enough skill to play with them while bringing his speed and forechecking disruption. I'm not sure Zucker+Rust is the ideal combo for Geno even though I think it will be good. We just need another Jake.
Honestly, if we got Zucker, I would probably try (although I know it won't happen):
Zucker-Sid-Simon (or swap Kahun and Simon)
Jake-Geno-Rust
Since they're getting comfortable with the RD-RD thing, either 2 or 3RD.
Letang-Marino
Dumo-Schultz
Dumo-Letang
X-Marino
X-Schultz
X being MP/JJ atm.
I'd actually like to see the first one in action and let MP/JJ/Riiko/Ruh battle it out for the 3rd pair...again. atm.
I've got news for people who think Sid doesn't get Jake back upon his return. This is still Sid's team and he gets what he wants.
So you better find a RW for Sid and a LW for Geno
I think Kahun could fill either of those spots
I don't think they'd do this but reuniting JJ-MP and having three righties in the top 4 reads as very attractive to me. Maybe even pair Letang and Schultz.