This is some hilarious revisionist history here now. Somehow Pettersson has always been a better prospect, had a better draft year, had better potential, etc. yet still went 5th overall.Then sorry, you'd be wrong.
Hischier is obviously better today but i imagine either by the end of next season or the season after the majority of the hockey world would say Pettersson is the best from the draft except Devils, FLyers, Stars, and Aves fans because they slept on him.
This is some hilarious revisionist history here now. Somehow Pettersson has always been a better prospect, had a better draft year, had better potential, etc. yet still went 5th overall.
I've heard that Hischier was more NHL ready then Pettersson in their draft year. I also heard Pettersson could have went 1st overall if he was 20 pounds heavier, which was rumored to have been said by executives at the draft.
You can keep posting this all you like, this isn't proof. Which executives said this? Does this guy have a history of credible NHL reporting and inside sources? A supposed anonymous comment means nothing, especially when it goes against everything that actually happened.
This reporters follow up tweet also directly contradicts your own narrative. Did you even read it?
[citation needed]Yes, obviously there is many pieces missing to the story, however it's not a stretch to consider Pettersson had the better draft year, and had better potential. The only reason he was passed was because of size. Smaller skill/talented players always get passed up in the draft, and have a history of making teams pay for it. (Karlsson, Gaudreau, Nylander, etc...)
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Pettersson is/was also not "smaller" either, he was underweight. Tall and lanky players don't have a history of dropping, and the players you listed are all shorter guys.
Do you know who else was underweight at the 2017 draft? Nico Hischier. He is still underweight a year later.
Oh so now tall and lighter players drop? You said smaller and posted a list of shorter players. You keep shifting your narrative whenever it's convenient to do so.Hischier was at a regular NHL draft weight for a 18 year old.. around 176. Pettersson was around 15 pounds lighter than him at 161. If he we're around the same weight, which is what caused him to drop (not height) it would have been tough to pass up Pettersson.
EP isn't small lol those other guys were 6ft at best or shorter hence the small/skilled analogy, EP has been 6'2 for a while, his issue was weight which a lot of lanky players deal with when they're that young.Yes, obviously there is many pieces missing to the story, however it's not a stretch to consider Pettersson had the better draft year, and had better potential. The only reason he was passed was because of size. Smaller skill/talented players always get passed up in the draft, and have a history of making teams pay for it. (Karlsson, Gaudreau, Nylander, etc...)
Oh so now tall and lighter players drop? You said smaller and posted a list of shorter players. You keep shifting your narrative whenever it's convenient to do so.
Your original post was about weight, you claimed he dropped because was underweight. You followed that up by claiming that "smaller" players often drop and listed a bunch of guys who dropped because they are short, not underweight. I called you out on that and you pivoted back to underweight, without substantiating your claim that underweight guys often drop. It's pretty normal for guys to be drafted and for them to be underweight or too weak for the NHL, that isn't irregular and players don't often drop for that. Posting a list of shorter guys who fell for size concerns doesn't prove your point.The ****? My original post was always about weight.... It said if he WEIGHED 20 pounds heavier he would've went first overall. Wheres the shift in narrative. Learn 2 Read.
Your original post was about weight, you claimed he dropped because was underweight. You followed that up by claiming that "smaller" players often drop and listed a bunch of guys who dropped because they are short, not underweight. I called you out on that and you pivoted back to underweight, without substantiating your claim that underweight guys often drop. It's pretty normal for guys to be drafted and for them to be underweight or too weak for the NHL, that isn't irregular and players don't often drop for that. Posting a list of shorter guys who fell for size concerns doesn't prove your point.
5'11" is small for a defenseman, and not that tall for a forward either. Pettersson was 6'2" at the draft combine, he's not at all comparable to the players you listed.2 of those guys (nylander and karlsson) were NHL height at the draft 5'11. And dropped because both we're under 170 pounds.. Same with Gaudreau who is under 160 pounds(He is the only one both short and small). Similar to Pettersson. Smaller =/= short. And the actual definition is more relative to weight..
Pettersson was way behind until this poll got revived after his first game.... No one game should change your perspective of a player this much. He had a good first game, but the hype is too rich at the moment.
He will be a calder candidate and a fantastic player for vancouver (possibly a franchise player down the road), but he's getting hyped as better than last years #1 overall pick that played great in the NHL at 18yo in Hischier and Marner after back to back 60/70pt seasons plus over ppg in the playoffs last year.
Hall in 2017 with Zajac as his center - 53 points
Hall in 2018 with Hischier as his center - 93 points
Who carried who again?
Did you just see pettersson scoring 2+1 in his second game?Pettersson was way behind until this poll got revived after his first game.... No one game should change your perspective of a player this much. He had a good first game, but the hype is too rich at the moment.
He will be a calder candidate and a fantastic player for vancouver (possibly a franchise player down the road), but he's getting hyped as better than last years #1 overall pick that played great in the NHL at 18yo in Hischier and Marner after back to back 60/70pt seasons plus over ppg in the playoffs last year.
Yes, and?Did you just see pettersson scoring 2+1 in his second game?
Makes perfect sense, for most people this second game represent 50% of their viewings of Pettersson and that is obviously reflected in their opinions. Basically if you think this is a valid poll then you more or less have to judge Elias's 2 GP vs Hischier's 1 season + 1 GP.Pettersson was way behind until this poll got revived after his first game.... No one game should change your perspective of a player this much. He had a good first game, but the hype is too rich at the moment.
He will be a calder candidate and a fantastic player for vancouver (possibly a franchise player down the road), but he's getting hyped as better than last years #1 overall pick that played great in the NHL at 18yo in Hischier and Marner after back to back 60/70pt seasons plus over ppg in the playoffs last year.
Boats Ahoes said:Top 3 scorer in the NHL someday.
Lmk how that goes
Lol well played. Kid is insane. He won’t keep this up but shit. As a devil fan though I will never be upset we picked Nico
Going pretty well so far. Good thing I never specified sample sizes
I disagree. You can’t just pretend that EP’s draft plus one season didn’t happen. Many Canuck fans, myself included, watched him a lot last year and I assume many prospect followers did as well. Most aren’t judging him on 2 NHL games but are assessing his potential vs Hischier’s potential. Taken to the logical extreme your argument would be that any NHL player is better than any ‘unproven’ prospect. Which is obviously wrong.Makes perfect sense, for most people this second game represent 50% of their viewings of Pettersson and that is obviously reflected in their opinions. Basically if you think this is a valid poll then you more or less have to judge Elias's 2 GP vs Hischier's 1 season + 1 GP.