Confirmed with Link: Pacioretty Traded to Vegas for Tomas Tatar, Nick Suzuki, 2019 2nd

[IceNeophyte]

Pacioretty traded to Montreal for Tatar + Suzuki + 2nd round pick + 7th pick

I think Shannon is running with an overestimation of the tax savings.

 

[The Great Weal]

So...it is still a great deal now that we actually a signed Pacioretty? Don't get me wrong, I still love Suzuki...like with a whole lot of passion. But getting Tatar seemed to me like a reason got enough why they would deal Suzuki and the possibility to not be able to sign Pacioretty. A signed Pacioretty should have gotten you a little more, or so I think. Would have been neat to get Theodore while having to add to it...

Yes because who knows if any other team could match that. I'd rather take this great package instead of risking to lose him for nothing.

 

[Treb]

i cant believe people are satisfied with this deal, we got a prospect who is likely to turn into a mccarron or DLR, a cap dump, and a second

this is another sideways move....the idea of trades is to try to improve your team

in.....domi, tatar, suzuki

out.....chucky, patches

sorry but i aint seeing any improvement at all here

Why do you think Suzuki will turn into a defensive 4th line centre? What is your reasoning for Suzuki's offensive abilities to mostly disappear as a pro and that he will suddenly develop his defensive capabilities?

 

[Andy]

I have a hard time believing that figure, especially since Walsh himself was on twitter last year and said that the taxes issues doesn't cause that large a discrepancy.

 

[1909]

Yes because who knows if any other team could match that. I'd rather take this great package instead of risking to lose him for nothing.

in a couple of days, some other teams GM will come up with a statement saying: "we thought had a better offer for Patches...."

 

[The Great Weal]

in a couple of days, some other teams GM will come up with a statement saying: "we thought had a better offer for Patches...."

Doubt it. Kane and skinner got shit for return.

 

[Habby4Life]

Very good return. Tatar will add a few goals and more depth with future C's. Max will put up 40 in VGK by being allowed to just snipe goals not being burdened with the C and the MTL media.

 

[sampollock]

are you sure about that precious 7th rounder ?

7th for sure???????????????

 

[dinodebino]

Reading RDS, Twitter and FB, I'm just discouraged by the supposed Habs fans who are pissed at the trade because they think it's a Pacioretty vs Tatar trade. My goodness. Mostly francophone fans (there, I said it), who thought it would have been possible to ice a more competitive team this season. On what planet to they live????

 

[Pickles]

Can't believe it finally happened. Not familiar with Suzuki but he's a center which is fantastic. Thankfully this looks like one of MB's better trades

 

[SergeConstantin74]

How possible would it be to draft Hughes and Lafrenière in 2019 and 2020?

Lafrenière - Hughes - Suzuki
Drouin - Kotkaniemi - Gallagher
Domi - Poehling - Scherbak

 

[The Great Weal]

Wait we got a 7th as well?

 

[habsgirl5000]

You need to have players peaking at the same time to have a competitive team.

Keeping patches makes no sense in that regards. By the time the new wave of players is competitive, patches will be dead weight on a big contract.

then explain why we are keeping Price for 8 more years?

you can easily replace patches name in that sentence with Price

 

[Sorinth]

I don't know too much about Suzuki, but it appears this is a good trade so kudos for Bergevin.

I don't like taking back another winger as there is already a logjam for wingers and I want the younger guys to be given a chance. Still I guess taking Tatar's salary is why we were able to get what we did. It's a shame we couldn't have gotten Vegas's 1st instead of their 2nd, I would have really pushed to get that extra 1st.

And although I doubt Pacioretty was willing to sign a 4 year 7m deal with us, I put that on the atmosphere Bergevin has created. And it's a shame because that's a solid deal for Vegas and would've been great for us if we were still a decent team.

 

[habsgirl5000]

we are a team that is already starving for goals and this summer we got significantly weaker in that area,

i think its safe to say between patches and chucky they get 50 goals next season,

we have replaced them with domi, suzuki, and tatar who will be lucky to get 30 between all 3 of them

 

[Milhouse40]

7m ahhahahahahah
ahahahahhahaha
ahahahahhahahahahahaha

7m for an unidimensional player whos invisible during playoffs

god awful.

Better that than having more than 7M sitting there doing nothing.

 

[1909]

we are a team that is already starving for goals and this summer we got significantly weaker in that area,

i think its safe to say between patches and chucky they get 50 goals next season,

we have replaced them with domi, suzuki, and tatar who will be lucky to get 30 between all 3 of them

Suzuki will possibly still play at OHL level. Tatar can score 20-25. Domi between 15-20.

 

[dinodebino]

we are a team that is already starving for goals and this summer we got significantly weaker in that area,

i think its safe to say between patches and chucky they get 50 goals next season,

we have replaced them with domi, suzuki, and tatar who will be lucky to get 30 between all 3 of them

TBH, who cares. This is not a team that is going to win something soon. Did you think they would rebuild instantly in a summer's time? Did you believe this team was close to being a playoff contender?

 

[NORiculous]

He just a signed a 4 y contract worth 28M.

 

[Milhouse40]

Reading RDS, Twitter and FB, I'm just discouraged by the supposed Habs fans who are pissed at the trade because they think it's a Pacioretty vs Tatar trade. My goodness. Mostly francophone fans (there, I said it), who thought it would have been possible to ice a more competitive team thia season. On what planet to they live????

I'm discouraged about most Habs fans thinking that Suzuki is a center.
See my point with this post below.

Can't believe it finally happened. Not familiar with Suzuki but he's a center which is fantastic. Thankfully this looks like one of MB's better trades

I don't know too much about Suzuki, but it appears this is a good trade so kudos for Bergevin.

I don't like taking back another winger as there is already a logjam for wingers and I want the younger guys to be given a chance. Still I guess taking Tatar's salary is why we were able to get what we did. It's a shame we couldn't have gotten Vegas's 1st instead of their 2nd, I would have really pushed to get that extra 1st.

And although I doubt Pacioretty was willing to sign a 4 year 7m deal with us, I put that on the atmosphere Bergevin has created. And it's a shame because that's a solid deal for Vegas and would've been great for us if we were still a decent team.

Trading a signed Pacioretty for 2 wingers and a magic beans is terrible to me.....and it's not because any of those things sucks. Again, we got rid of a player instead of going for what this team need,

 

[Redux91]

I've seen the chart, it's simplistic at best as there are tons of ways around paying that amount in taxes

Why taxes shouldn’t prevent John Tavares or any free agent...

You want to pay max 9 mill a year then you go on right ahead bud

 

[Paddyjack]

Reading RDS, Twitter and FB, I'm just discouraged by the supposed Habs fans who are pissed at the trade because they think it's a Pacioretty vs Tatar trade. My goodness. Mostly francophone fans (there, I said it), who thought it would have been possible to ice a more competitive team this season. On what planet to they live????

Even Marinaro is playing it dumb that way this morning

 

[Captain Mountain]

One thing I've learned through the Bergevin-era is that Montreal needs to get a tax expert on staff STAT. I'm not sure the stuff they're doing behind the scenes, but I know the Leafs for instance are very proactive managing tax burden and the seem to not do that at all.

That Max signed a deal like that with Vegas and wouldn't have come close here is down to management.

 

[Sorinth]

You want to pay max 9 mill a year then you go on right ahead bud

Does Max not employ an accountant to do his taxes?

 

[Redux91]

then explain why we are keeping Price for 8 more years?

you can easily replace patches name in that sentence with Price

Are you high or something? Price has won a Vezina and a League MVP .. do you understand that?

What has Max pacioretty done? except score a couple goals with his best friend midget for a couple of sorry years and then disgustingly disappears in EVERY playoffs, at least Carey has a game 7 shutout