Niagara IceDogs 2022 Off-season Thread

[three dog night]

Second assistant coach IceDogs Hire Damon Racicot as Assistant Coach – Niagara IceDogs

 

[three dog night]

New head scout IceDogs Announce Dave Robertson as HEO Area Scout – Niagara IceDogs

 

[ohloutsider]

New head scout IceDogs Announce Dave Robertson as HEO Area Scout – Niagara IceDogs

Does not say "head" scout in the article. Says he is the new scout in the HEO area ( Ottawa).

 

[BadgerBruce]

If I interpret these announcements correctly, the new Niagara IceDogs owner now has a pile of job openings in Branford.

 

[Hockeyguy999]

Feel bad for the fans of Niagara. Owner darren is bringing over all his friends from his Brantford teams. And he’s never had a winning team in Brantford. This is sad.

 

[the dog]

Feel bad for the fans of Niagara. Owner darren is bringing over all his friends from his Brantford teams. And he’s never had a winning team in Brantford. This is sad.

I guess Wayne Gretzky's not to involved in ownership

 

[three dog night]

New director of scouting IceDogs Hire Adam Henrich as Director of Scouting – Niagara IceDogs

 

[Dog Fan]

New director of scouting IceDogs Hire Adam Henrich as Director of Scouting – Niagara IceDogs

Well, isn't that just peachy! Our Director of Scouting owns the minor midget team that we just drafted 5 players from in the 2022 Priority Selection. I think that they wanted players that would report.

 

[Generalsupdates]

Could see the Gens being trading partners with Niagara if Dickinson does indeed refuse to report

 

[OHL4Life]

I guess Wayne Gretzky's not to involved in ownership

hes there with name only, they gave him free ownership in exchange for the use of his name.

Feel bad for the fans of Niagara. Owner darren is bringing over all his friends from his Brantford teams. And he’s never had a winning team in Brantford. This is sad.

absolutely zero ohl experience, i guess hes smarter then everyone.

 

[dirty12]

hes there with name only, they gave him free ownership in exchange for the use of his name.



absolutely zero ohl experience, i guess hes smarter then everyone.

Smart enough to bring Gretzky in, own and manage GOJHL and OJHL teams, have ‘north of $20M’ for an OHL franchise and know he’d be an idiot to move it; so, yeah.

 

[OHL4Life]

Smart enough to bring Gretzky in, own and manage GOJHL and OJHL teams, have ‘north of $20M’ for an OHL franchise and know he’d be an idiot to move it; so, yeah.

what success have those franchises have? how many times where they even .500? 20 wins over 3 SEASONS in jrb and jra team finished last all years hes managed them. great businessman, sure, smart hockey guy, no way

 

[three dog night]

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[dirty12]

what success have those franchises have? how many times where they even .500? 20 wins over 3 SEASONS in jrb and jra team finished last all years hes managed them. great businessman, sure, smart hockey guy, no way

Time will tell. I like what he’s done so far; not every team can/will seize the opportunity to select a defective player, then bringing in 5 vets for less than the trade value plus compensation that the defect will return. Those vets should have his team firmly middle of the pack making it a better place for the Icedogs’s many young high picks to develop.

 

[Generalsupdates]

Time will tell. I like what he’s done so far; not every team can/will seize the opportunity to select a defective player, then bringing in 5 vets for less than the trade value plus compensation that the defect will return. Those vets should have his team firmly middle of the pack making it a better place for the Icedogs’s many young high picks to develop.

They didn't bring in 5 vets for less than trade value. I was expecting Jesus to go for a 5th and a 8th. They got him for a 3rd and a 5th. Zito they paid 2 2nds, 2 4ths, 5th, 6th for an OA. He's good but that's a lottttt for an OA. You can argue he did a good job bringing in vets. But you definitely cannot argue he got them for under value. He paid way more

 

[dirty12]

They didn't bring in 5 vets for less than trade value. I was expecting Jesus to go for a 5th and a 8th. They got him for a 3rd and a 5th. Zito they paid 2 2nds, 2 4ths, 5th, 6th for an OA. He's good but that's a lottttt for an OA. You can argue he did a good job bringing in vets. But you definitely cannot argue he got them for under value. He paid way more

You misinterpreted my post. The five vets were brought in for less than what I think the [trade value of Dickinson plus the compensatory pick(s)] will be. Zito is an ‘03. A couple of those picks (4 & 5) are for an OA season; good deal both ways imo. A 4th for import is fine. The price of the 3-OAs are on the high end, I agree.

 

[three dog night]

Feel bad for the fans of Niagara. Owner darren is bringing over all his friends from his Brantford teams. And he’s never had a winning team in Brantford. This is sad.

Yes they did the tier two had a winning record a couple years ago.

 

[ohloutsider]

They didn't bring in 5 vets for less than trade value. I was expecting Jesus to go for a 5th and a 8th. They got him for a 3rd and a 5th. Zito they paid 2 2nds, 2 4ths, 5th, 6th for an OA. He's good but that's a lottttt for an OA. You can argue he did a good job bringing in vets. But you definitely cannot argue he got them for under value. He paid way more

Zito is not an OA - Ribeau is.

 

[bcspragu]

If Im Saginaw Im calling Niagara and trying to work out a Bloom+ for Dickinson deal if he truly wont report. Would have to be a 2 parter of course but would fit both teams timelines.

 

[Generalsupdates]

If Im Saginaw Im calling Niagara and trying to work out a Bloom+ for Dickinson deal if he truly wont report. Would have to be a 2 parter of course but would fit both teams timelines.

You could/would get Dickinson for only picks. You don't need to include a roster player

Zito is not an OA - Ribeau is.

Oh my mistake. Thought he was an 02

 

[ohloutsider]

Could see the Gens being trading partners with Niagara if Dickinson does indeed refuse to report

I could see Windsor kicking the tires on a Dickinson deal as well. Bowler may already be in a rebuild mindset. Zito traded, Maggio possibly gone as well as Johnston. Not much of a high end roster left but a good core of young talent. Training camps not too far away so won't take long to sort this one out.

 

[OHL4Life]

Time will tell. I like what he’s done so far; not every team can/will seize the opportunity to select a defective player, then bringing in 5 vets for less than the trade value plus compensation that the defect will return. Those vets should have his team firmly middle of the pack making it a better place for the Icedogs’s many young high picks to develop.

i dont know anyone who would say less then value for those trades, if anything its the opposite.

Yes they did the tier two had a winning record a couple years ago.

so one winning record years ago in jra? come on thats what your hanging onto?

 

[HockeyPops]

Time will tell. I like what he’s done so far; not every team can/will seize the opportunity to select a defective player, then bringing in 5 vets for less than the trade value plus compensation that the defect will return.

i dont know anyone who would say less then value for those trades, if anything its the opposite.

It's awkwardly worded for sure, but I believe @dirty12 meant that if they trade a defective Dickinson they will get more back in return for him than they spent in total bringing in those 5 vets.

I agree @OHL4Life that if anything they overpaid a bit for those vets.

 

[OHL4Life]

It's awkwardly worded for sure, but I believe @dirty12 meant that if they trade a defective Dickinson they will get more back in return for him than they spent in total bringing in those 5 vets.

I agree @OHL4Life that if anything they overpaid a bit for those vets.

if thats the case then that is fair, but that still means they overpaid, regardless of what they get back for dickinson.

 

[dirty12]

i dont know anyone who would say less then value for those trades, if anything its the opposite.



so one winning record years ago in jra? come on thats what your hanging onto?

Comp #5 overall, comp end of 2nd I believe, Dickinson for picks should be ~3(2nds & 3rds).
5 vets brought in for; 2(2nds), 3(3rds & 4ths), 5, *(4 &5).

I’ll take the side of compensatory 5th overall pick over a few 4ths and a couple of 5ths