Andrei79
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O'reilly makes no sense for where the team is at the moment.
I don't think Buffalo minds a 29 y.o 30 goal scorer given their core is super young still.
Plekanec got ripped today on the Hockey Central at Noon podcast, "if I'm kind I'd say he was ineffective", "He was bad" etc.
I'd trade Max for him, then use other players such as Byron and Shaw to help build the weak prospect pool. Not sure Buffalo would go for that.
If they forego the prospect / pick package that some suspect will be offered for Max, then they should follow it up with a move or two to add prospect depth.
I like O'Reilly, but he's not a difference maker (see Avs, Sabres). I'd be okay with the acquisition as long as they keep the future in mind.
If you look at 3 of the pillars (*ahem*), and the team's top 3 needs, I could see this:
Trade: O'Reilly
Free Agency: Stastny
Draft: Top 5 pick on defensman to play with Weber
Watch Bergevin treat this off-season like the GM of a contender would treat the deadline. I have a feeling he'll be flipping picks and prospects left and right for immediate help and the chance of making the playoffs thus potentially saving his job. I hope I'm wrong, but he's got to be desperate.
The only time I hear Habs fans talk about Pacioretty as being one of the elite wingers in the league is when they're talking about trading him.
32 players scored 30 goals this year, 41 scored 29. Gallagher had 31 playing with Plekanec most of the year.
That type of move would only secure the Habs to be a mediocre teams for many years to come.
Bergevin's plan coming to fruition.
Just ****ing rebuild!
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With the way things are going, we might end up tanking for many more years.Just ****ing rebuild!
****!
A 50-60 pt center, for the price of a Kuznetzov, would limit the team's upside for the future. Cue multiple 1st and 2nd round exits, if we even get there.
We could have landed ROR in 2015 if we had a competent GM.Its kind of crazy how the stars never seem aligned for the habs to land a center...
the exact type of center they need could be available - but he plays in the division
they're awful one year, draft player deemed to be the top eligible center (Galchenyuk) in his draft - he ends up not being a center
They're awful this year, have a top 4 pick - there's no center projected to be in the top 10 this year.
Cruel
Don't think the Habs had the tradeable assets to get that done then.We could have landed ROR in 2015 if we had a competent GM.
Sure we did. We just had an idiot in charge.Don't think the Habs had the tradeable assets to get that done then.
Which is ultimately a knock on the GM
Unfortunately we're mismanaged so badly that we are never in line to get a centre. If we didn't ruin all our prospects and didn't create the worst farm system in the whole league, then maybe we would have the chips to actually trade for a decent player. Instead we are trying to trade scraps. Shaw has been OK but the fact we lost two 2nd's for him was a massive F*** up.Its kind of crazy how the stars never seem aligned for the habs to land a center...
the exact type of center they need could be available - but he plays in the division
they're awful one year, draft player deemed to be the top eligible center (Galchenyuk) in his draft - he ends up not being a center
They're awful this year, have a top 4 pick - there's no center projected to be in the top 10 this year.
Cruel
Not sure how everyone here would feel if Galchenyuk had been traded nor do I know how including him in this deal would of helped at all.Sure we did. We just had an idiot in charge.
Your telling me Galchenyuk, our 1st, and Scherbek weren't tradeable assets?
I think the team has done a poor job drafting past the 1st round, developing players and accumulating assets.Unfortunately we're mismanaged so badly that we are never in line to get a centre. If we didn't ruin all our prospects and didn't create the worst farm system in the whole league, then maybe we would have the chips to actually trade for a decent player. Instead we are trying to trade scraps. Shaw has been OK but the fact we lost two 2nd's for him was a massive F*** up.
if we had a delorean we could fix this.I mean he's the type of player you trade Sergachev for, not a one dimensional winger.
Would the team be better today? probably not. That's only because of subsequent idiotic moves though. The real question is would the team have been better then, and the answer is yes.Not sure how everyone here would feel if Galchenyuk had been traded nor do I know how including him in this deal would of helped at all.
Sure we'd be better down the middle...but we'd be weaker on the wing and no Juulsen on the backend.
Would this team be any better today minus Galchenyuk, Scherbak and 1st (Juulsen)
But with ROR?
Maybe...but if so, only marginally better.
The idea is to add an ROR to what we already have
No disagreement there. Like I said-the team is badly mismanaged from top to bottom. Owner, GM, Scouts, Coaches.I think the team has done a poor job drafting past the 1st round, developing players and accumulating assets.
All of those things have contributed to our inability to trade for a center IMO as well as develop one ourselves.