Then he should've negotiated that in his contract if he wanted that level of control. Look, there are some people who will look to maximize their leverage in situations. It's possible Fleury may do that but plenty of players with these sorts of clauses also keep it pretty simple with the intent that they're either just going through the motions because it's an annual event and have no real fear of being dealt or just want to move on and don't try to play 3D chess when it just doesn't matter that much.
Until we know what Fleury is looking for or what he's looking to avoid because those are both viable ways to approach it, it's impossible to say with any real certainty.
You ask why waste 10 picks on teams that aren't going to trade for you as if teams don't change quickly on these things depending on what's out there for them. You're not diminishing your options no matter what reasoning is used to pick the ten teams you don't want to go to. It's your negotiated contract and your power to wield as you see fit for whatever reason. It's not like jury selection because things change in a hot second in the NHL. Typically, a no-trade list is to avoid organizations for whatever reason...and whichever team that Vegas completes a deal with he is fine with playing for regardless of their situation.
Rumor: Marc-Andre Fleury Has Submitted No-Trade List To Vegas Golden Knights
I bet the 10 teams are
1) Toronto
2) Vancouver
3) Calgary (he did reject it 5 years ago, don't see why it would change now)
4) Edmonton
5) Philly
6) Washington
7) Ottawa
8) ?
9) ?
10) ?
Because demanding a complete NTC on your contract means in a negotiation with the team you are going to have to give something the other way. Maybe you get a year less of term or AAV. Doing a limited NTC allows you to have your cake and eat too in a sense.
And it’s exactly like the jury selection thing. If you know that a team isn’t in a position to trade for you then it’s idiotic to put them on your list. You don’t submit the list at the beginning of the contract and then it’s set in stone. It’s done after each year so you can change it based on the current situation.
And thus it limits your level of control so it's pointless to try and portray it as having your cake and eating it too because it isn't like that just because you want it to be.
And no, it's not like a jury selection thing because jurors are static in what they present to you as an option. Teams are not. Off-seasons are fluid and while you could make reasonable gambles to that end if you want, I sincerely doubt players really think that much into it. It's going to come down to what Fleury prioritizes for his next team and try to avoid the teams that present the least amount of opportunity toward that end. Pretty simple.
Well we have no idea what Fleury prioritizes but IF he does care about maximum control of the situation and choosing his destination then leaving teams off the list who aren’t in any position to make a move for a goalie would be wise. At least that’s a plausible strategy and I think it’s pretty naive to say that players and their agents don’t take their NTC lists seriously.
Rumor: Marc-Andre Fleury Has Submitted No-Trade List To Vegas Golden Knights
I bet the 10 teams are
1) Toronto
2) Vancouver
3) Calgary (he did reject it 5 years ago, don't see why it would change now)
4) Edmonton
5) Philly
6) Washington
7) Ottawa
8) ?
9) ?
10) ?
Why would he include Montreal, they already have Price and Allen, no way they are trading for Fleury.I'm guessing every Canadian team plus Columbus, Arizona and Buffalo.
This would SUCK for Vegas. They should buy out Fleury instead of wasting 3.5 million in cap (3.25 million in real dollars) on him, and THEN having 3.25 in dead cap/salary in a player that makes the team worse. A Fleury buyout is 2.083 million for four years. So Vegas saves a good 5 million by buying him out. A buyout saves them 4 to 5 million dollars in cap space those first two years.Honestly it's not a bad deal for both teams. Vegas gets out of having a $7m goaltender sitting on their bench for most of the season.
Engo may retire. JMFJ is a terrible defenseman the more you have him play even strength but he's an excellent penalty killer. He's a cheaper buyout option than MAF if they want to go that route and it's probably cheaper to pay someone a 2nd or 3rd to take him off your hands than a 1st or more to take MAF off your hands.
I mean if he wants to choose where he goes, he puts ten teams that have no interest in him.
No they wouldn’t, who cares about incentives.COL would take him with an incentive, otherwise, his career is done.
Actually the opposite of what you just said, why put ten teams that you know aren’t going to trade for you? You already know your not going there.
If you put the 10 teams most in need of goaltending then you can remove them from the list if the negotiations go well (i.e. get another year added to your deal).
7M is too expensive for a backup which is what MAF is at this point
Going to cost Vegas a good asset or eating a lot of cap to move him IMO
No point in putting teams like Winnipeg that would never trade for MAF on the list.
Id assume he goes to a playoff team. Would Canes be interested?