Leon Draisaitl the most underrated player in the NHL?

[tucker3434]

Only underrated by a few that think McDavid can create a 50-50 linemate. That’s not many people, because it’s ridiculous.

 

[FerrisRox]

I mean.. It was an 8 point difference and Drai played on the wing of McDavid.

Great point. Marner just played on the wing of that schlep John Tavares.

Draisaitl has an excellent centre while the Leaf player just had some reject the Islanders had let go.

 

[Kamiccolo]

Great point. Marner just played on the wing of that schlep John Tavares.

Draisaitl has an excellent centre while the Leaf player just had some reject the Islanders had let go.

Exactly. Glad you understand what I was trying to say.

 

[McFlyingV]

Great point. Marner just played on the wing of that schlep John Tavares.

Draisaitl has an excellent centre while the Leaf player just had some reject the Islanders had let go.

And on the powerplay with another PPG player and 72P Dman (PP and ES).

These arguments to discredit players are laughable when both players involved are playing with very good players.

 

[JackFr]

Without Connor, I think Draisaitl is a 40-40 point per game player. Which is still great, but we shouldn't pretend that just because he hit 50 it means that McDavid has no impact on his totals.

 

[82Ninety42011]

Why doesn't this go both ways? EST games start 4:00PM on the west coast. Are people like racing home from work to watch east coast games?

Well truth be told most people I know don't work 9-5 so we see whatever game we choose to watch. Start time is not an issue for us in West.

 

[McFlash97]

Without Connor, I think Draisaitl is a 40-40 point per game player. Which is still great, but we shouldn't pretend that just because he hit 50 it means that McDavid has no impact on his totals.

His last 32 games when he is not paired with 97 he has 46 points. Where is the ppg coming from again ?

 

[The Worst One]

I'm getting pretty sick of people saying that Drai is a product of McDavid. They're both superstars, who complement each other well.

 

[ScottishCanuck]

I don't think people know what underrated means.

I think some people (usually the same people every time) try to downplay his achievements because he plays with McDavid, but that doesn't make him underrated.

 

[thadd]

If you don't want Sportsnet or TSN regularly you won't feel he's underrated.

 

[FerrisRox]

His last 32 games when he is not paired with 97 he has 46 points. Where is the ppg coming from again ?

If you're going to insist on bringing facts and valid points into this debate you are going to prove extremely unpopular.

 

[FerrisRox]

I'm getting pretty sick of people saying that Drai is a product of McDavid. They're both superstars, who compliment each other well.

There's no reason to get sick of it.

It's a sure fire way to know that the person you are dealing with here doesn't have a clue what they are talking about. You don't need to watch too many Oiler games to realize what a special player he is and how incredibly talented he is.

People that come here and act as if he's riding McDavid's coattails and is a product of McDavid's immense talents just expose themselves as utterly clueless and make it crystal clear that while they are offering their emphatic opinion, they are, rather amazingly, doing so without actually watching Draisaitl play much and without actually looking at the numbers he produces with and without Connor McDavid.

Instead of being sick of it, use it for what it is, a clear piece of evidence that you need not take that poster seriously and move on to find conversations with people that only offer opinions on topics they actually have a real insight into.

 

[WillTheThrill]

No

 

[oilchamp99]

Tarasenko was signed two years earlier which makes a big difference. He's also not a Center and neither is Pastrnak. Pasta may make up that difference in the first two years of his next contract, he'll certainly get a ton more than 8.5. I bet Boston will wish they had given him more for an 8 year term when that day comes.

Kuznetsov is the only true comparable and since Leon had a better season and playoffs, that's the difference in $$$.

Draisaitl plays winger far more than he does center so that argument isn’t really applicable. I think it’s clear he was overpaid and that was the consensus at the time. Imagine Drai producing at this rate at $7M -$7.5M where he should have been signed at. Regardless, he’s killing it and oilers playing well so I’m happy.

 

[vanarchy]

He's proven himself to the point where anyone doubting his ability as a standalone player is probably delusional. It's as simple as that.

 

[McRpro]

Draisaitl plays winger far more than he does center so that argument isn’t really applicable. I think it’s clear he was overpaid and that was the consensus at the time. Imagine Drai producing at this rate at $7M -$7.5M where he should have been signed at. Regardless, he’s killing it and oilers playing well so I’m happy.

If he was signed at that amount it wouldn't have been 8 years. And regardless of his usual position now, he was 100% a center when that contract was signed.

 

[oilchamp99]

If he was signed at that amount it wouldn't have been 8 years. And regardless of his usual position now, he was 100% a center when that contract was signed.

Obviously he wasn’t signed at that hence the discussion of him being over paid...most Oiler fans were happy he signed for 8 but most thought it was a bit much. Which it was but let’s agree to disagree.

 

[Eisen]

Draisaitl plays winger far more than he does center so that argument isn’t really applicable. I think it’s clear he was overpaid and that was the consensus at the time. Imagine Drai producing at this rate at $7M -$7.5M where he should have been signed at. Regardless, he’s killing it and oilers playing well so I’m happy.

A 100 points player for that contract is a bargain. I'm sure the Oilers are happy with that. If he took a bridge there is no way you could sign him for that after it's up.

 

[McRpro]

Obviously he wasn’t signed at that hence the discussion of him being over paid...most Oiler fans were happy he signed for 8 but most thought it was a bit much. Which it was but let’s agree to disagree.

I don't agree to that.

 

[McRpro]

A 100 points player for that contract is a bargain. I'm sure the Oilers are happy with that. If he took a bridge there is no way you could sign him for that after it's up.

Obviously the contract is a major steal and only going to look better and better. The Oilers bet on him improving and were willing to give him a max term contract for it. One of Chia's rare good moves.

 

[oilchamp99]

A 100 points player for that contract is a bargain. I'm sure the Oilers are happy with that. If he took a bridge there is no way you could sign him for that after it's up.

Of course it’s a bargain now but that’s hindsight and not the point. I don’t think any of us thought he would drop 50G or 100p.

 

[bobbyking]

When he puts in that effort you can tell. last year was a determined draisatl this year looks like we'll see the same

 

[scallionjj11]

To be fair, I made this thread 15 months ago....

 

[Eisen]

Of course it’s a bargain now but that’s hindsight and not the point. I don’t think any of us thought he would drop 50G or 100p.

Agree, but even for a 35-50 player that's not too bad. And that was well within reach.

 

[The Worst One]

There's no reason to get sick of it.

It's a sure fire way to know that the person you are dealing with her doesn't have a clue what they are talking about. You don't need to watch too many Oiler games to realize what a special player he is and how incredibly talented he is.

People that come here and act as if he's riding McDavid's coattails and is a product of McDavid's immense talents just expose themselves as utterly clueless and make it crystal clear that while they are offering their emphatic opinion, they are, rather amazingly, doing so without actually watching Draisaitl play much and without actually looking at then numbers he produces with and without Connor McDavid.

Instead of being sick of it, use it for what it is, a clear piece of evidence that you need not take that poster seriously and move not to find conversations with people that actually only offer opinions on topics they actually have a real insight into.

Good comment, and you're right.