Speculation: Hurricanes moving Skinner or Faulk possibly this time for real? (MOD WARNING IN OP)

[Liferleafer]

Eh? The leafs D is bad enough that it sticks out compared to the forward group. Faulk would make them A LOT better. Like Boston should actually worry better, not manufactured worry because they got Tavares better

Faulk is like Gardiner...flashes of brilliance with to many dashes of stupidity. If he was more defensively aware, i'd be all over it, but he's not a good partner for Rielly...and a Gardiner/Faulk pairing would be like watching Keystone cops.

 

[Liferleafer]

I doubt Canes wants pick and prospects, they want playoff.
Make an offer that makes sense for Canes aswell, not just Leafs.
Im not even a Cane fan, but I guess Nylander would be a target, and if you dont like it, look somewhere else.

You can't be serious....right?

 

[McSuper]

What's that got to do with it?

There are times where info shared is just fan opinion, there are times where there is direct info coming from the team/player/agent (ie...Habs not re-signing MaxPac), and there are times when notable insiders (McKenzie, Friedman, etc...) have info. Bleed simply stated that the poster couldn't be sure that the team has no interest, especially to the point of said poster using bold and caps for effect.

Missed the point did you ? We are not talking about legit source . A proposal made on these boards are made for fans to discuss . Lots of Edmonton fans have no interest in Faulk . Lots do . I for one want nothing to do with him and Edmonton certainly isn't sent cheap ELC contracts back for him .

1 Maybe Edmonton management would add Faulk but common sense would tell you at the very least equal money has to go back . That is a fact not an opinion . So forget the Yamamoto and Puljujarvi asked

2) We just drafted a big RD that puts up tons of points and was consider NHL ready by lots of scouts Common sense would say we at least give him 9 games in the NHL to see if he is ready . So with Larsson . Nurse , Sekera , Russell , Benning , Klefbom , Bear , Gravel and Bouchard why would we need another D ?

3) Faulk has declined over the last 3 years . He isn't worth the asking price from Canes fans

4) Since you are so quick to Jump on CO . Why not jump on Canes fans who say the want nothing to do with Lucic . Doesn't the same rules apply to them ? Fact is the GM of the Canes said he wanted to get harder to play against . Lucic does that . So he checks what your GM wanted . Yet fans are saying that want nothing to do with Lucic . Yet you jump on Edmonton fans for saying they want nothing to do with no defence Faulk . Kettle meet Pot

 

[go4hockey]

**** no. We've been through this a billion times. EDMONTON HAS NO INTEREST IN FAULK.


However, I am all for Lucic + 1st + 3rd for Skinner. We get a fast goal scorer for Drai and the Canes get toughness and a veteran presence to play in the top 6. Something they wanted.

You say Edmonton has no interest in Faulk. I am sure the canes have even less interest in Lucic.

 

[Liferleafer]

You say Edmonton has no interest in Faulk. I am sure the canes have even less interest in Lucic.

The Canes and everyone else....

 

[justafan22]

2019 1st (lottery protected), top 5 protected in 2020 if not + brown + 2nd for faulk + mckeown

 

[KnightofBoston]

Faulk is like Gardiner...flashes of brilliance with to many dashes of stupidity. If he was more defensively aware, i'd be all over it, but he's not a good partner for Rielly...and a Gardiner/Faulk pairing would be like watching Keystone cops.

Really? Last time I remember watching Faulk he was as Carolinas best d-man. Why’d they keep him over Hanifin?

 

[KnightofBoston]

Yeah, going up against Justin Faulk is a lot more terrifying than going up against John Tavares.

Sure thing, bahd.

Love your username


Going up against the individual player isn’t my point, the point is the leafs strengthened an area of strength and did nothing to strengthen an area of weakness. If they had added to the d I would say they’d challenge Tampa for first and be a good bet to make the ECF, as it stands I think they’ll be in a dog fight with Boston and could get bounced in the first round again

 

[Liferleafer]

Really? Last time I remember watching Faulk he was as Carolinas best d-man. Why’d they keep him over Hanifin?

Because Calgary wanted Hanafin over Faulk?

 

[Not Jared Cowen]

Really? Last time I remember watching Faulk he was as Carolinas best d-man. Why’d they keep him over Hanifin?

Because Faulk wasn’t valuable enough to return Dougie Hamilton.

Two years ago you could argue he was their #1. Today Faulk is Carolina’s fourth best d-man. Slavin, Pesce and Hamilton are all above Faulk now.

 

[ottomaddox]

Faulk is like Gardiner...flashes of brilliance with to many dashes of stupidity. If he was more defensively aware, i'd be all over it, but he's not a good partner for Rielly...and a Gardiner/Faulk pairing would be like watching Keystone cops.

I certainly haven't seen enough of Faulk, but I don't think of him as bonehead/brilliant dichotomy d-man. He certainly has value, but I do agree: he might not be the right fit for TOR.

Edit - I do like Faulk, but I could see why others might see another D as a better fit.

 

[howkie]

You can't be serious....right?

What would you offer that would make Canes intressted? Let me guess a of random collection of picks and lesser prospects??
Offer something useful from Leafs roster then...

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

Two years ago you could argue he was their #1. Today Faulk is Carolina’s fourth best d-man. Slavin, Pesce and Hamilton are all above Faulk now.

Yeah, but that's halfway in the sense of saying, "Kadri is Toronto's 3rd best center".

 

[Marshy]

"Faulk and Gardiner on the Leafs. God...please...NO!"

-Fred Andersen

 

[howkie]

Leafs would be happy to give up Nylander to get their right handed D who's CF% is sub 43% EV and who has 179 dmen in the league who plays harder minutes...NOT

Sounds like a match, a D-man who cant handle harder minutes for a winger who cant handle harder matchups and don´t dare get into the corners.

 

[Liferleafer]

What would you offer that would make Canes intressted? Let me guess a of random collection of picks and lesser prospects??
Offer something useful from Leafs roster then...

Nothing, i don't have interest in Faulk. That doesn't change the fact that if the Canes are targeting Nylander, Faulk wouldn't be the Canes D that the Leafs would be looking at.

 

[YP44]

Really? Last time I remember watching Faulk he was as Carolinas best d-man. Why’d they keep him over Hanifin?

When was the last time your watched Faulk? Cause a few years ago this was the case. Now is their 4th best.

 

[ottomaddox]

What would you offer that would make Canes intressted? Let me guess a of random collection of picks and lesser prospects??
Offer something useful from Leafs roster then...

Grundstom. Brown, and a 2nd in 2019 for Faulk, Bean, and a 6th round pick in 2020.

 

[Liferleafer]

I certainly haven't seen enough of Faulk, but I don't think of him as bonehead/brilliant dichotomy d-man. He certainly has value, but I do agree: he might not be the right fit for TOR.

Edit - I do like Faulk, but I could see why others might see another D as a better fit.

He does have value, like Gardiner. His value lies within a team that can shelter him with a solid D 1st partner...that's not Toronto, they need that D 1st type.

 

[Not Jared Cowen]

Yeah, but that's halfway in the sense of saying, "Kadri is Toronto's 3rd best center".

Which would be a factual statement.

It doesn’t mean Kadri is a 3C or that Faulk is a 4D. That’s just where they sit on their team’s depth chart.

 

[GaryPoppins]

Have to wonder if there is a swap of assets of Faulk+ for Trouba.. Both filling eachother's needs... similar cash.... Both under team control for 2 years....

 

[KnightofBoston]

When was the last time your watched Faulk? Cause a few years ago this was the case. Now is their 4th best.

Idk, I zoned out a lot I guess in those games against Carolina, I appreciate the new info

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

Have to wonder if there is a swap of assets of Faulk+ for Trouba.. Both filling eachother's needs... similar cash.... Both under team control for 2 years....

'Canes can trade Faulk because they have Pesce, Hamilton, Van Reimsdyk down the right side with Roland McKeown for depth.

In fact they're exerted to trade Faulk because it makes little sense to pay him 6 million for 3rd pairing, 2nd unit PP time.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Missed the point did you ? We are not talking about legit source . A proposal made on these boards are made for fans to discuss . Lots of Edmonton fans have no interest in Faulk . Lots do . I for one want nothing to do with him and Edmonton certainly isn't sent cheap ELC contracts back for him .

Understood the point perfectly, just didn't agree with it, but you seem to be missing my point. The poster IN BIG BOLD CAPS said the Oilers have no interest in Faulk. Bleed just stated that fans have no interest and the Oilers may or may not have interest, it's as simple as that. If 2 months ago, someone would have proposed Dougie Hamilton to Carolina, we Canes fans would have said it makes absolutely no sense with Faulk, Pesce, TVR, and McKeown on the RHD side along with Slavin, Hanifin, Fleury and Bean on the LHD side. It would have been common sense that the Canes wouldn't trade for Hamilton, yet here we are.

1 Maybe Edmonton management would add Faulk but common sense would tell you at the very least equal money has to go back . That is a fact not an opinion . So forget the Yamamoto and Puljujarvi asked

Pretty sure no Canes fans asked for Yamamoto. The poster "mattydamon" is from Victoria BC and not a Canes fan. I didn't see anyone ask for Puljujarvi in this thread either, but maybe I missed it.

2) We just drafted a big RD that puts up tons of points and was consider NHL ready by lots of scouts Common sense would say we at least give him 9 games in the NHL to see if he is ready . So with Larsson . Nurse , Sekera , Russell , Benning , Klefbom , Bear , Gravel and Bouchard why would we need another D ?

See Hamilton point above.

3) Faulk has declined over the last 3 years . He isn't worth the asking price from Canes fans

Maybe, but the "asking prices" in this thread were mainly from non-Canes fans. Most Canes fans seem to think we aren't going to get top dollar for either Skinner or Faulk.

4) Since you are so quick to Jump on CO . Why not jump on Canes fans who say the want nothing to do with Lucic . Doesn't the same rules apply to them ? Fact is the GM of the Canes said he wanted to get harder to play against . Lucic does that . So he checks what your GM wanted . Yet fans are saying that want nothing to do with Lucic . Yet you jump on Edmonton fans for saying they want nothing to do with no defence Faulk . Kettle meet Pot

1) What are you talking about? I never responded to CO at all.
2) To your Lucic point, you must clearly see that it was a "retaliatory" type post in the first place, made in response to the other post.
3) I never jumped on anyone in this thread so your Kettle meet Pot makes zero sense.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

Faulk for Yamamoto and Puljujarvi.