Player Discussion Evan Rodrigues (2015 via UFA) – '18-19 Buffalo (NHL)

[Husko]

If we're buying UFA years I would think the AAV would need to be higher than that.

 

[Aladyyn]

Would be a steal.

 

[joshjull]

 

[joshjull]

 

[joshjull]

 

[TheMistyStranger]

Nice. E-rod signs 4 years at slightly more than Labanc, then? :p

 

[joshjull]

Looks like he was doing really well at the end of the season. Was his production sustainable or was he just getting lucky?

He was with Skinner

 

[kenfury]

A player with 9.9 GAR and 1.7 WAR really should get paid. ERod is flexible enough that even if the middle 6 gets sorted out he can slot in as a 3/4 RW. That kind of flexibility is very valuable to team composition. 3years 2.25 AAV seems fair.

 

[Husko]

During ERod's great stretch with Skinner was he playing center?

 

[Jacob582]

What other players are comparable to Evan Rodrigues?

 

[Buffaloed]

What other players are comparable to Evan Rodrigues?

2016-17 Zach Hyman (TOR) 10G 18A, 4 year, 2.25M AAV
2017-18 Blake Coleman (NJ) 13G, 12A, 3 year, 1.8M AAV

 

[TheMistyStranger]

2016-17 Zach Hyman (TOR) 10G 18A, 4 year, 2.25M AAV
2017-18 Blake Coleman (NJ) 13G, 12A, 3 year, 1.8M AAV

4 yr, 2.1m it is!

 

[Sabre Dance]

Skinner - Eichel - Rodrigues

 

[kirby11]

Hope they get it done at around 2-2.25M per year at 4 years. We need more swiss army knife type players like ERod to fill out the forward depth.

 

[MackAttack26]

Skinner - Eichel - Rodrigues

If we add a C, he is my #1 choice to play on that line to start the season (although I doubt it happens).

But with our lack of centers, I think we need ERod as a middle-6 C as of now.

 

[dortt]

Skinner - Eichel - Rodrigues

Hopefully Krueger uses his brain, unlike the last 2 coaches

 

[NotABadPeriod]

Those aren't crazy numbers so term must be an issue. The Sabres must be content to walk away from an arb ruling with a one or two year deal, but erod is looking for more term.

@dotcommunism can add the relevant details, but I believe that teams have to request a two year award prior to the hearing for eligible players (cannot buy a UFA year with an arb award though). But they might not be able to walk away if the $$ comes in low enough (not sure what the threshold is currently). This happened with Tim Kennedy: he got an award in arbitration that the team didn't like but was under the walk-away limit, so they bought him out instead (the arbitration triggered another buyout window, and because of his age the buyout cost was only 1/3 the contract instead of 2/3).

 

[DatGuy]

@dotcommunism can add the relevant details, but I believe that teams have to request a two year award prior to the hearing for eligible players (cannot buy a UFA year with an arb award though). But they might not be able to walk away if the $$ comes in low enough (not sure what the threshold is currently). This happened with Tim Kennedy: he got an award in arbitration that the team didn't like but was under the walk-away limit, so they bought him out instead (the arbitration triggered another buyout window, and because of his age the buyout cost was only 1/3 the contract instead of 2/3).

Team has to accept if it is 3.5mil a year or lower.

 

[Buffaloed]

Interesting info:
Buyout FAQ - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps
Buyouts Outside of the Regular Period: Clubs whom have 1 or more arbitration filings may be permitted to perform a buyout outside of the regular window. This gives teams another opportunity to become cap compliant following an arbitration case.

Clubs are permitted to perform a buyout outside the regular period during the 48 hour period beginning on the third day after the final of [CBA 13(c)ii]

1. Settlement of the Club's final arbitration case, or
2. Receipt of the Club's last arbitration award

Requirements:

1. A buyout can only be performed on a player who was on the clubs reserve list at 3:00pm on the most recent trade deadline
2. The player must have a cap hit of at least $3,455,438 for the 2019 offseason

Sobotka has a cap hit of $3.5 million.

 

[MackAttack26]

Sundqvist just put up 31 points last year and got 4 years, 11m (2.75m AAV)

Gotta think that is a good comparable if we sign ERod to a term like that.

 

[dotcommunism]

@dotcommunism can add the relevant details, but I believe that teams have to request a two year award prior to the hearing for eligible players (cannot buy a UFA year with an arb award though). But they might not be able to walk away if the $$ comes in low enough (not sure what the threshold is currently). This happened with Tim Kennedy: he got an award in arbitration that the team didn't like but was under the walk-away limit, so they bought him out instead (the arbitration triggered another buyout window, and because of his age the buyout cost was only 1/3 the contract instead of 2/3).

On the first point, whether a deal is one or two years must be elected as part of the brief submitted by the party which did not file for arbitration. So yes, term must be elected prior to the actual arbitration hearing.
As for walk-away rights, I'm pretty sure this year a team only has walk-away rights if an arbitration award comes in at over about $4.4M per year.

That said, I don't believe that the post you are quoting is talking about a team's walk-away rights. I think he means that the Sabres are content to get Rodrigues signed to a one or two year deal.

 

[Buffaloed]

Evan Rodrigues, Buffalo Sabres exchange arbitration figures
Informative article about ERod's arbitration and the strengths and weaknesses of his case.

 

[wunderpanda]

The player side has filed at $2.65M, and the team side has filed at $1.5M. The resulting midpoint for the case is $2.075M.

trade his rights, i like erod but he isn't a $2m+ a season player

 

[jcbeze]

The player side has filed at $2.65M, and the team side has filed at $1.5M. The resulting midpoint for the case is $2.075M.

trade his rights, i like erod but he isn't a $2m+ a season player

the term can only be 1 or 2 years....not really a big deal cap wise

 

[TheMistyStranger]

The player side has filed at $2.65M, and the team side has filed at $1.5M. The resulting midpoint for the case is $2.075M.

trade his rights, i like erod but he isn't a $2m+ a season player

Go back a page and look at the comps.