Devils 2018-19 team discussion (player news and notes) - offseason part VI

[Missionhockey]

I like Wood, but he's not so important to the team that I would be worried if he holds out. Something good might even come out of it if Mcleod/Anderson have a good showing in camp and can make the team as a RW. Worse comes to worse:

Hall-Hischier-Palmieri
Johansson-Zacha-Mcleod
Bratt-Zajac-Noesen
Coleman-Boyle-(whoever, Anderson maybe)

I like the idea of having Zajac with Bratt because it might give Bratt a little bit of a security blanket playing with Zajac. If Wood signs early, stick him on the fourth line, put Coleman back with Zajac and Bratt back into the top 6.

 

[Hischier and Hughes]

I like Wood, but he's not so important to the team that I would be worried if he holds out. Something good might even come out of it if Mcleod/Anderson have a good showing in camp and can make the team as a RW. Worse comes to worse:

Hall-Hischier-Palmieri
Johansson-Zacha-Mcleod
Bratt-Zajac-Noesen
Coleman-Boyle-(whoever, Anderson maybe)

I like the idea of having Zajac with Bratt because it might give Bratt a little bit of a security blanket playing with Zajac. If Wood signs early, stick him on the fourth line, put Coleman back with Zajac and Bratt back into the top 6.

Huh?

Wood is a major piece to this team. In fact, Wood is a part of our core.

 

[NJDevs26]

Does anyone else get the feeling Shero is holding onto our cap space really tightly? Im expecting some big contracts to be signed and possibly a big name or two acquired in the next few years.

Weve cut pennies on all our contracts this summer and are arguing with Wood over what will be a mil or less on the cap per year. Seems odd given our current status and cap space - Shero is certainly keeping this as open as possible for the future.

And no it isnt just good GMing if Wood misses camp. Not saying its bad GMing, just pinching pennies which leads me to believe there are big steps for NJ in the coming years.

Why is it automatically the GM’s fault if the player holds out? Just because you have cap space doesn’t mean you should overpay someone off a good half season for the sake of overpaying them. Maybe they’re a lot more than pennies apart if Wood actually wants a Tom Wilson deal.

 

[MartyOwns]

“ken, ken!” i shrieked as the players marched off the bus and into the arena. daneyko’s gaze met mine, our eyes locking for what seemed to be an eternity. he threw me onto his broad, glistening shoulders and carried me onto the bus, closing the door behind him.

he laid me on a bed of old national geographic magazines, as wave after wave of involuntary ******* rippled through my body. he nuzzled my ******* with his stubbly head. i yearned for more.

 

[zharkenby]

Ray capping off an incredible offseason .... Jesus.

 

[NJDevs26]

Huh?

Wood is a major piece to this team. In fact, Wood is a part of our core.

Part of the core is a little much for a third liner. To me the core is Hall, Nico, Palm, Vat, Cory and Greene. Coleman is closer to being a core guy than Wood tbh

 

[Missionhockey]

Huh?

Wood is a major piece to this team. In fact, Wood is a part of our core.

Wood is a good player, but I'm not sure if he's a core piece. Just my opinion, but I'm more interested in the development of Bratt than Wood. Wood to me is more Michael Grabner and Bratt to me is more Marcus Johansson. I'd rather have the latter.

Now don't get me wrong, I want Wood on the team, I think he makes the team better in the role he's in, but he shouldn't be more than a bottom sixer. Like I said, just my opinion.

 

[billingtons ghost]

Why is it automatically the GM’s fault if the player holds out? Just because you have cap space doesn’t mean you should overpay someone off a good half season for the sake of overpaying them. Maybe they’re a lot more than pennies apart if Wood actually wants a Tom Wilson deal.

1. if he misses camp we might stunt his development
2. we might engender bad feelings making it harder to re-sign him later

1 and 2 wouldn't be so important on their own if we weren't wallowing in cap space and the fact that we aren't talking about being millions of dollars apart here or years apart in term...

We aren't talking about re-signing a guy who is making 4m and wants a jump to 8m and 7 years...

They already agree on term (bridge contract) soo.....How far apart could they logically be in reality? 300k? 500k? 1m max? Chicken feed.

Get it done, Ray.

 

[NJDevs26]

If he misses camp and this gets acrimonious enough to stretch into the season that’s one thing. But if he misses a few days or a week of camp I could care less. No Jet fan cares about Sam Darnold missing the first few days of camp today.

 

[Devils731]

They already agree on term (bridge contract) soo.....How far apart could they logically be in reality? 300k? 500k? 1m max? Chicken feed.

First, we don’t know how far apart they are but second, if it’s a million dollars then that isn’t chicken feed.

A million dollars over their value to every player on the roster costs you ~$22 million. It adds up so you can’t just give in to get a deal done. Wood’s deal is not done in isolation.

 

[Hischier and Hughes]

Why is it automatically the GM’s fault if the player holds out? Just because you have cap space doesn’t mean you should overpay someone off a good half season for the sake of overpaying them. Maybe they’re a lot more than pennies apart if Wood actually wants a Tom Wilson deal.

when did I ever say anything was Shero's fault?

I simply stated there must be a reason why Shero is pinching pennies on a contract the term has been agreed on. He also seemed to get our other guys in under market value. I just get the feeling were saving a lot of cap for something other than re-signing guys

 

[billingtons ghost]

Wood is a good player, but I'm not sure if he's a core piece. Just my opinion, but I'm more interested in the development of Bratt than Wood. Wood to me is more Michael Grabner and Bratt to me is more Marcus Johansson. I'd rather have the latter.

Now don't get me wrong, I want Wood on the team, I think he makes the team better in the role he's in, but he shouldn't be more than a bottom sixer. Like I said, just my opinion.

Wood arguably brings the value of Grabner (3.35m/3yrs) and Maroon(1.75/1yr NTC hometown discount) combined into one player.

I'd be fine with the Grabner deal equivalent.

 

[Hischier and Hughes]

Wood is a good player, but I'm not sure if he's a core piece. Just my opinion, but I'm more interested in the development of Bratt than Wood. Wood to me is more Michael Grabner and Bratt to me is more Marcus Johansson. I'd rather have the latter.

Now don't get me wrong, I want Wood on the team, I think he makes the team better in the role he's in, but he shouldn't be more than a bottom sixer. Like I said, just my opinion.

I think Wood ends up a better Wilson - and a better Wilson on our top PP and 3rd line duties means close to 50 points. On top of a gritty big bodied mindset, as well as being the fastest guy in the league - that makes him a core guy for us IMO

 

[glenwo2]

Looks like we have our Deb Replacement

https://nypost.com/2018/09/12/devils-find-their-deb-placey-replacement/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site buttons&utm_campaign=site buttons

Erika Wachter

An upgrade as far as being pleasant to the eye goes.

BTW, her smile is blinding.

 

[Zezel22]

Huh?

Wood is a major piece to this team. In fact, Wood is a part of our core.

Yes but if the subject veers into anything regarding the devils and money or cap management or anything like that, it is a knee jerk reaction of this board to swarm to the side of "no big deal, this is normal, this is nothing, who cares". Its just the way it is.

 

[glenwo2]

So here's the thing that bugs me a little bit... Other hires (Stein, Baicker, Robenhymer) have a lot of hockey knowledge and worked in hockey for years before coming to the Devils (and Baicker has sinced moved on).... Scrolling through Erika's Instagram/Twitter (not as creepy as it sounds) there's absolutely zero evidence of anything hockey related.

I had said in this thread that I was pretty positive they were going to hire a young female... and there's nothing wrong with that... I knew it was going to happen. I don't care about her looks. That's not the point. You cannot tell me that she's more qualified than Arda Ocal who is practically a hockey genius..... or Julie Robenhymer who is good in front of the camera and very knowledgeable.

I'm sure she'll be fine... but I'm kind of disappointed.

It seems the Devils DO care and that IS the point...as far as they're concerned.

 

[NJDevs26]

Wood arguably brings the value of Grabner (3.35m/3yrs) and Maroon(1.75/1yr NTC hometown discount) combined into one player.

I'd be fine with the Grabner deal equivalent.

Except Blake Coleman just signed for half of that. Overpaying Wood who wasn’t as impactful as Coleman in the stretch run might not sit well with Coleman.

 

[Devils Dominion]

WTH is Ray thinking regarding Wood?

Get the kid inked and in camp

 

[glenwo2]

I challenge every single one of you not to mention her appearance, because it means absolutely nothing in regards to her ability to do her job, you sexist pigs.

Here's another challenge for you :

I challenge you not to make broad PERSONAL ATTACKS on those who like the way she looks.

(oh wait....so much for that)

 

[Zezel22]

An upgrade as far as being pleasant to the eye goes.

BTW, her smile is blinding.

LOLLLLL Oh no Glen! Glen what have you done? Lol. This is classic.

 

[billingtons ghost]

First, we don’t know how far apart they are but second, if it’s a million dollars then that isn’t chicken feed.

A million dollars over their value to every player on the roster costs you ~$22 million. It adds up so you can’t just give in to get a deal done. Wood’s deal is not done in isolation.

I said above that I'd be ok with 3.35/3 that AZ gave Grabner. In reality, I'd EXPECT it to be much lower in the 2.5 or 2.75 range - but seriously - Wood does have unreal potential and there is certainly something to say for the way he progressed last year.

Do you really want to fight him over 800k today, and then fight him over a Tom Wilson style contract later or see him walk?

 

[Devils Dominion]

4pm today MSG+
Devils vs TB game 3

The Rock was rocking that night

 

[billingtons ghost]

I think Wood ends up a better Wilson - and a better Wilson on our top PP and 3rd line duties means close to 50 points. On top of a gritty big bodied mindset, as well as being the fastest guy in the league - that makes him a core guy for us IMO

He's actually a better player than Tom Wilson is today, and at 22 years old.

 

[glenwo2]

I would love to go on a rant about casual misogyny but this isn't the time or place for it. I'll just say, if you look this woman and make a comment on how sexy she is, you should be required to make a comment on how sexy you find Steve and Daneyko as well.

If I had that quirky Pic of Cangy that was both disturbing and funny which was put up during last season, I'd put THAT up.

 

[RangerDoggo]

I get that Shero’s overpayments in Pittsburgh got him canned there and he’s trying to learn from past mistakes here, but for God’s sake, just pay Wood already. Free agents avoid us like the plague so it’s not like we’ll ever be in contention for any big names in a given offseason, and a hit of $3-4 million a season isn’t going to screw us with the amount of space we’ll have afterward. There will plenty of time to think about putting it to good use when the opportunity arises.