Avsboy
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Better at everything? Come on man... Barkov is a bit overrated here and I agree, Matthews is better. But no question is Barkov better defensivelyBeing better at everything makes him better than Barkov. The legend of Barkov's mythical defensive play continues. Maybe he needs Tavares to take him to school in another playoff series to put this nonsense to rest.
Being better at everything makes him better than Barkov. The legend of Barkov's mythical defensive play continues. Maybe he needs Tavares to take him to school in another playoff series.
Besides scoring goals what is Matthews better at?Better at everything? Come on man... Barkov is a bit overrated here and I agree, Matthews is better. But no question is Barkov better defensively
Irrelevant. Why do you think Matthews has been ranked ahead of Barkov pretty much on every list that's produced by paid professionals? Are they all Leafs fans too? Barkov is stunningly overrrated on HFBoards. I don't know how the Finns do this with all their players.Only thing Matthews is better than Barkov is skating and scoring goals, which is pretty huge, but cmon don't be the usual troll you are. I know you are one of the biggest Leafs fans on this board and even you can't deny Barkov is better coming to his season. Both have most likely improved since last year so it's Matthews to prove he really is better, otherwise it's proven commodity.
SkatingBesides scoring goals what is Matthews better at?
Irrelevant. Why do you think Matthews has been ranked ahead of Barkov pretty much on every list that's produced by paid professionals? Are they all Leafs fans too. Barkov is stunningly overrrated on HFBoards. I don't know how the Finns do this with all their players.
Oh please. This nonsense gets brought up every time and it gets stupider every time I read it. What exactly were these TSN and SN lists doing when they made their rankings when Kessel was a Leaf?? Everybody seemed to be eh-ok with where Kessel got ranked. All of a sudden the Leafs draft one of the best players in the world and oh noes those TSN and SN lists are so biased towards the Leafs!!I could ask the same with Leafs fan, but short answer TSN and SN. Good luck being the "Mecca" of hockey. Matthews will most likely to be the better player, but at least last season he was not. Why do you suggest he is now with no evidence? Did Barkov slouch or is Matthews improving faster than the speed of light?
Both are good skaters but Barkov is much better at protecting the puck and a playmaker. Matthews needs to improve his play making and defensive game a lot to pass Barkov.Skating
Scoring
IQ
Vision
You can disagree with the last two but the first two are definite. Skating and shooting are two of the most important traits in hockey, you don't need much more than that to be a better player, especially when everything else but defense is super close.
Oh please. This nonsense gets brought up every time and it gets stupider every time I read it. What exactly were these TSN and SN lists doing when they made their rankings when Kessel was a Leaf?? Everybody seemed to be eh-ok with where Kessel got ranked. All of a sudden the Leafs draft one of the best players in the world and oh noes those TSN and SN lists are so biased towards the Leafs!!
These double standards get more hilarious as time goes on.
You do know that Matthews is American so TSN and Sportsnet using the good ol' Canadian boy is wrong to say.I could ask the same with Leafs fan, but short answer TSN, SN and being good ol' canadian boy. Good luck being the "Mecca" of hockey. Matthews will most likely to be the better player, but at least last season he was not. Why do you suggest he is now with no evidence? Did Barkov slouch or is Matthews improving faster than the speed of light?
You do know that Matthews is American so TSN and Sportsnet using the good ol' Canadian boy is wrong to say.
Why doesn't Barkov at least have a 30 goal season which he has not yet had and that's something all #1 centres should get, where as Matthews scored 40 goals as a rookie and 34 goals in his sophomore season.My bad I'll edit it off, but the point stays. Matthews can this year prove himself to be the better player and I'll be happy for Leafs fans if he does.
Why doesn't Barkov at least have a 30 goal season which he has not yet had which all #1 centres should get, where as Matthews scored 40 goals as a rookie and 34 goals in his sophomore season.
Skating
Scoring
IQ
Vision
You can disagree with the last two but the first two are definite. Skating and shooting are two of the most important traits in hockey, you don't need much more than that to be a better player, especially when everything else but defense is super close.
Stop already defending or try to change the subject while the case is already there. It lights more the fact that Barkov has played in a bad team most of the time of his career and Barkov can bring two points to his team with individual shootout goal. He doesn't have the same privilege as Matthews.Since Barkov is in his 6th season and Matthews is in his 3rd season obviously he would get more attempts and more total shootout goals. However isn't it a good thing if any player likes Matthews has less attempts in the shootout because it means his team isn't participating in them that much because they are winning more in regulation or overtime.
How exactly am I doing that? It's a common fact that Barkov going into his 6th season and Matthews going into his 3rd season would obviously mean that Barkov has had more success in the shootout compared to Matthews. It's okay if you want to point that out as a stat which separates them, however the context surrounding why Barkov has had more success is clearly obvious due to him being in the league a lot longer, so that's why I pointed out he has had more attempts and total goals.Stop already defending or try to change the subject while the case is already there. It lights more the fact that Barkov has played in a bad team most of the time of his career and Barkov can bring two points to his team with individual shootout goal. He doesn't have the same privilege as Matthews.
Shootouts: Barkov >> Matthews. /Case.
Twice the chances - 49% percent greater success rate. Barkov > Matthews.How exactly am I doing that? It's a common fact that Barkov going into his 6th season and Matthews going into his 3rd season would obviously mean that Barkov has had more success in the shootout compared to Matthews. It's okay if you want to point that out as a stat which separates them, however the context surrounding why Barkov has had more success is clearly obvious due to him being in the league a lot longer, so that's why I pointed out he has had more attempts and total goals.
It helps getting twice the chances since he's been in the league since the 2013-2014 season, where as Matthews has been in the league since the 2016-2017 season. Like I was saying before that's why Barkov has had a greater success rate, so can you at least admit it's true?Twice the chances - 49% percent greater success rate. Barkov > Matthews.
Of course I can admit that but it can be thought the other way around. Bigger sample size gives you the chance to fail more. But let's not stick to this particular skill line. I mean October is hereIt helps getting twice the chances since he's been in the league since the 2013-2014 season, where as Matthews has been in the league since the 2016-2017 season. Like I was saying before that's why Barkov has had a greater success rate, so can you at least admit it's true?
It helps getting twice the chances since he's been in the league since the 2013-2014 season, where as Matthews has been in the league since the 2016-2017 season. Like I was saying before that's why Barkov has had a greater success rate, so can you at least admit it's true?