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How so? We wouldn't be the first team to sign a guy with the intention of making him available in the expansion draft.

I was mocking the fan propaganda post. Your point makes a lot of sense, especially if Moore comes here and plays well. He’d be 30 years old and very attractive as a top 4 option with a cap hit of 2.75M for 3 years.
 

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Or they wanted an expansion friendly contract to burn for next year and give the prospects more time developing in the minors.

Yes that's why they went five years instead of two. or maybe it's really because heaven forefend Zboril is nowhere near ready to assume even limited NHL duties?
 

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It would make some sense if it wasn't for five seasons (Vegas took no long term deals). In reality it's because they don't perceive Zboril as anything more than a 9-10 defenseman right now.

Or they don't plan on bringing Krug back and don't want to be going with a 23 and under LD group after Chara.

Not saying one way or another, but seems like you have in your head from Driver's article probably that Zboril isn't close. Sweeney said they expect him to challenge in camp. Who knows? He has always been a decisive prospect, and not just around here.
 

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It would make some sense if it wasn't for five seasons (Vegas took no long term deals). In reality it's because they don't perceive Zboril as anything more than a 9-10 defenseman right now.
Which is correct. It’s up to Zboril to push for a spot with all the competition. If he needs another season in the AHL it’s not the end of the world.

They signed a good NHL defenseman to a good contract that is easy to move if need be. Now they have NHL depth at LD and options moving forward.
 

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Or they don't plan on bringing Krug back and don't want to be going with a 23 and under LD group after Chara.

Not saying one way or another, but seems like you have in your head from Driver's article probably that Zboril isn't close. Sweeney said they expect him to challenge in camp. Who knows? He has always been a decisive prospect, and not just around here.

It's not in my head it's reality. They have 8 NHL caliber defensemen right now. Where does Zboril fit in the next two seasons other than injury, where he is the 9th or 10th defenseman like I said?
 
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It's not in my head it's reality. They have 8 NHL caliber defensemen right now. Where does Zboril fit in the next two seasons other than injury, where he is the 9th or 10th defenseman like I said?

At this moment in time is Zboril probably the #9D in the system? Sure. Where was Matt Grzelcyk on the depth chart 12 months ago?

Moore provides safety as Chara approaches retirement and Krug approaches UFA. If Vaak or Zboril or Lauzon take a spot in the top 6 Moore isn't going to block it from happening. That could happen in October. Or it could happen 15 months from now. Or never.

In reality, over the next few seasons we are going to see the LD transform like we saw the RD transform. Moore is just a bottom 3 bridge guy to serve as a backup in that process.
 

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It's not in my head it's reality. They have 8 NHL caliber defensemen right now. Where does Zboril fit in the next two seasons other than injury, where he is the 9th or 10th defenseman like I said?

Sure. It's reality as of today, but things can change very quickly. I suspect they will. Zboril probably only has value as a complimentary piece to a larger trade package. Unless he helps the Bruins land someone who can actually impact the roster...why move him at all? Moreover, why rush him?

The difference between BOS and TOR and TAM isn't Jake Virtanen.
 

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I was hoping this summer would the time where Sweeney would put up a package of the team's prospects (2 or 3 or more) to consolidate the assets, fill a need and make the team better, now.
He must have some kind of idea of what he has in his cupboard of youngsters and prospects. Maybe he needs more time, maybe the opportunity is not there, I get that honestly, no problem.

That being said, and I think it's worth repeating, all those kids can't and won't play for Bruins. I'd like something to be done about this. No a big fan of losing kids (assets) one a time for no return (see Austin Czarnik).
 

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Or they don't plan on bringing Krug back and don't want to be going with a 23 and under LD group after Chara.

Not saying one way or another, but seems like you have in your head from Driver's article probably that Zboril isn't close. Sweeney said they expect him to challenge in camp. Who knows? He has always been a decisive prospect, and not just around here.

You read his coach (Jay Leach's) comments, and it sure doesn't sound like a player who is close to ready. Same with Lauzon.

And Sweeney makes a comments on July 1st about not rushing D-men or putting them in the line-up when they aren't ready.

No one is saying Zboril has zero chance at cracking this roster. But sure seems like the Bruins aren't expecting it to happen this October. And even if he plays well in pre-season/training camp, I don't think just playing well will be enough for Sweeney to move one of his 4 LD on one-way contracts. He'll really have to blow the doors off in camp similar to Carlo in Oct. 2016 for Sweeney to clear a roster spot out.
 

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Bo Horvat or Brock Boeser are better targets. Neither coming here for Zboril.

Is Vancouver rebuilding?

I want them to win another Cup with Bergeron
 

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After much though, I'm no longer going to over think what the roster looks like in JULY.

Just gonna enjoy my summer and worry about that once training camp comes around.

Maybe by then you all will have figured out who the Seattle Sea-Cattle will have taken from us in the expansion draft.
 

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At this moment in time is Zboril probably the #9D in the system? Sure. Where was Matt Grzelcyk on the depth chart 12 months ago?

Moore provides safety as Chara approaches retirement and Krug approaches UFA. If Vaak or Zboril or Lauzon take a spot in the top 6 Moore isn't going to block it from happening. That could happen in October. Or it could happen 15 months from now. Or never.

In reality, over the next few seasons we are going to see the LD transform like we saw the RD transform. Moore is just a bottom 3 bridge guy to serve as a backup in that process.

I'm not sure he is even that.

If two RD go down, your much more likely to see Goloubef recalled than Zboril.

He'll have to compete with Lauzon, Vaak, Sherman, and Johansson if two LD are injured. They'll probably recall whoever is playing the best at the time.
 

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What a wall of text.


Also, Bruins should look to take Jake Virtanen off Vans hands.

Underperforming 6th overall pick from 2014 who plays RW. Has speed, a goal scoring pedigree that he hasn't translated to the NHL yet. Also is not afraid of the physical side of the game. Invites contact all the time.

Could be a RW debrusk. I wonder if a swap of one of our D prospects like Zboril would do it.

Bad idea - was a big Virtanen supporter outta JR but I’m ready to admit I was wrong.

He is one of those players with all the tools but no tool box.
 

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Sure. It's reality as of today, but things can change very quickly. I suspect they will. Zboril probably only has value as a complimentary piece to a larger trade package. Unless he helps the Bruins land someone who can actually impact the roster...why move him at all? Moreover, why rush him?

The difference between BOS and TOR and TAM isn't Jake Virtanen.

You also aren't going to get anything to make a difference for Zboril. For once, just once, I would like this organization to deal a prospect while they still actually have some value instead of watching them go the way of so many they just hang on to forever until they just vanish.

If they truly feel he's a 13th overall caliber player with a long term future here, then by all means keep him on board, but not sure that's the case.
 
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