Alex Barkov wins the Selke

[lawrence]

He'll be signed in a matter of weeks.

based on what ?

 

[Gentle Man]

Are people going to take account who he was on a line with?

Verhaeghe missed significant time and had a mix of Duclair, Marchment, Vatrano, etc.

No Marchand. No Paccioretty. No Pastrnak.

I mean, shit, it's touted as the perfection LINE lol. Not perfection Center and 2 ordinary wingers.

Barkov also lost his McAvoy and Pietroangelo.

But oh well.

 

[FinlandPanther]

based on what ?

Based on he’s getting locked up? Like I’m not understanding your confusion.

 

[lawrence]

Based on he’s getting locked up? Like I’m not understanding your confusion.

wasn't asking you, but I was asking the guy what source did he have that he will be "locked up within weeks".

 

[Kairi Zaide]

Barkov had a much better defensive year and good enough for a lot of the eyes to vote him in. But the numbers paint a different story.

I don't have any opinion on the trophy winner... But the bolded is absolutely hilarious. Most of the voters are nothing different than your average fan who may catch 4-8 games of each players in contention, at most. But they just happen to have jobs in media. Most people will go with what they heard others say (without challenging their assessment), look at players with lots of points who play on the PK and/or who have had good defensive seasons in the past, look at faceoffs, etc.

 

[Dread Clawz]

based on what ?

I'll bump this when it happens

 

[Dread Clawz]

I do think the voters actually have looked at some games and also take into considering who they play with:

Marchand - Bergeron - Pasternak

Verhaeghe - Barkov - Marchment . Also Duclair, Tippet, Vatrano at some point

Now tell me which player has the better support?

Barkov also had a much better offensive season. That kinda jives with the nature of the Selke trophy, but it's been that way for the past 15 years so...

 

[The Moose is Loose]

I thought Stone should have won it but you know he's a winger. I like how Draisaitl got 2 2nd place votes despite being one of the worst players defensively at even strength.

And how was Draisaitl one of the worst players defensively?

He had a very solid defensive year


Congrats to Barkov though, well deserved win. He had a phenomenal year on both sides of the puck

 

[Ryuji Yamazaki]

Barkov had a much better defensive year and good enough for a lot of the eyes to vote him in. But the numbers paint a different story.

username checks out

 

[catnip]

I was going to whine about reputation awards but then I realised it's a bit impressive that someone has an award-worthy reputation by the time he's 25.

 

[kthx]

Well Bergeron cant win it every year.
Happy for Barkov.

 

[Erikfromfin]

Prophecy is now complete! I said at time of 2013 draft Barkovs gonna win multiple Selkes in his career and this was just the start. Incredible player.

 

[Artorius Horus T]

Salt is very strong here (still)
Salmiakki level.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

I thin Danault should be the winner but unfortunately the trophy is forward with most points who happens to back check once in a while.

Danault has 0 offensive talent
that's why he will never win it.

 

[BB88]

I thin Danault should be the winner but unfortunately the trophy is forward with most points who happens to back check once in a while.

It’s a 2way award

 

[Machinehead]

11 voters left Bergeron off the top five. It speaks volumes.


Bergeron has earned the privilege of setting the record, however the voters are determined to prevent it. A shame, much like the MLB. The voters think it is about them.

He should get the record, yes.

 

[Theodore450]

Barkov absolutely deserves this win. Very happy for him

 

[Auto Pilot]

Don't know how to read these, could you provide a summary for each?

Barkov gives up more on defense than Stone or Bergeron, that’s indicated by the plus in the defensive zone which is not what you want. You want it to be a negative with a lot of blue, which Bergeron and Stone both have.

 

[Paul4587]

Well deserved.

 

[Aurinko]

Its a sad day in the forums...

All of the Barkov underrated memers will be gone and we will only be left with the endless MCK vs. McD debate

 

[Kaako Kappo]

How many people on this board know that Barkov does what he does while sharing a large portion of his time on ice with 3rd liners? And at best 2nd liners.

 

[Buck Naked]

And how was Draisaitl one of the worst players defensively?

He had a very solid defensive year


Congrats to Barkov though, well deserved win. He had a phenomenal year on both sides of the puck

 

[Kaako Kappo]

Barkov had a much better defensive year and good enough for a lot of the eyes to vote him in. But the numbers paint a different story.

Now lets put Bergeron on Florida Panthers and Barkov on Boston Bruins.

All things aren't equal and that's why Bergeron won't win the award every year of his career.

 

[Jugitsu]

Salt is very strong here (still)
Salmiakki level.

Do you have something of value to contribute?

 

[jonlin]

Barkov gives up more on defense than Stone or Bergeron, that’s indicated by the plus in the defensive zone which is not what you want. You want it to be a negative with a lot of blue, which Bergeron and Stone both have.

Again:

Marchand - Bergeron - Pasternak

Verheaghe/Tippett - Barkov - Marchment/Duclair

Pacioretty - Tuch - Stone

Who of Bergeron / Barkov / Stone has the least support? 2 of the players have solid 1st liners to play with, 1 has 3rd liners.

I`d like to see what Barkov would do if put here:

Marchand - Barkov - Pasternak

I bet he would have 100+ points in a full season and his defensive numbers would also skyrocket.