You asked for it, here is your All Purpose San Jose Sharks Offseason Thread
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Living in the past isn't healthy. Setoguchi isn't what he was then, there's no guarantee what he is now is of any use either.
If a transition year and a 13th forward signing is enough to shake your fandom, perhaps that's where you look in the mirror.
The reality and your memory of what was differ greatly. The once was's of the Sharks won't be coming back to give you that feeling you got when they did what they did when they were here. There's no going back, sorry. Just move forward.
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Even when in the line up, he won't play enough to be a real liabiliy.
He has 1 year at 1% of the cap to be a cave man from time to time. Let's all quit making this such a big deal wheb it's a non-issue. The team wants to clean and straighten up the lockerroom, and Sabres fans say he was regarded as a very good teammate.
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He won't. When and if the team wants to have another player up over him they could always ir him with an "upper-body injury".
That part is applied to a lot of guys who really aren't contributing hockeywise. See Burish. When you start stacking your team with more of the same, it sort of goes down hill.
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He is the sole NHL FA addition, folks will use him (foolishly) as the totem for the team's off season. It is not a big deal, but when that's all there is....
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He's actually decent. I like his play and he dealt with his injury very well.
IDK why no one remembers him or McGinn, they'll both play their roles with the big club
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That's some significant technicality grasping right there.
You mean Scott if Hannan falters
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It's not a matter of one signing, it's a general direction and style of play. I prefer to watch high-skill, high-speed, puck possession teams. Maybe the Sharks will still be that, and I'm willing to take a wait and see approach, but like everyone else here, I'm speculating on what DW's moves will mean for the upcoming season and beyond. I don't like what I've seen.
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From my point of view, it's not as fast as the Blackhawks but it's good puck possession. We also know that they can play that fast since they did it against LA and the only quick person we lost was Boyle.
Looking at the team, there are at least 4 defensemen who are quick and can move the puck up quickly while two of them are rock solid defensively. If Irwin and Tennyson both improve, then potentially 6 players who can move the puck quickly. Forwards are basically the same but a little older. Six good top 6 players, Wingels and Torres(but injured) are good top 9 players and Sheppard's showing more good than bad IMO, Desjardins is a great 4th liner but the winger options there are miserable.
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Some people can handle the nightlife scene, others get absorbed by it and it ruins their dayjob. We don't know what category Setoguchi fits under. We can see that his production since the trade has been in a spiral down.
Personally, if Seto has settled down some, I would have loved for his return to teal (especially at 1M or less). We need a #3RW and Seto could have filled that hole for this upcoming (throw away) season. I just did not want him leading any of the rooks into that kind of lifestyle. Still hope the best for him, hope he scores 20 on the flames (just none on us).
It would have been an excellent reclamation project with no real risk or cost in assets. I don't buy the takes a spot from a rookie nonsense, either. None of the kids (including Goldobin) look to break camp in a top 9 winger role anyway. And with the logjam of 4th line veteran scrubs DW just signed, not much room for kids to make the top 12. (well, one spot for McGinn or someone to replace Torres)
Heck, a line of Torres/???? - Thornton - Setoguchi would have been a fun experiment.
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amen. we are a worse team than last year as it stands right now. we made the right subtractions but no additions, and we need to make additions to compete, top-6/top-4 type additions. instead we got two players who are generously thought of as marginal 4th liners, to go with several other players who are also marginal 4th liners.
This is a self-inflicted wound, we were all pissed off waving around a pistol and shot ourselves in the foot.
SactoShark
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Someone brought up Richards and Carter where you get both ends of the spectrum. Carter is OK and Richards is not. Richards' skills are quickly diminishing. It also has to do with the organizational response to the player. Do they address it and how do they address it? Are they effective in addressing it?
Different orgs handle nightlife differently. Both the Kings and Ducks played their home games in the playoffs like road games in their winning years, checking their guys into hotels even when at home. It tended to curtail the nightlife although there was still entertainment at those hotels, just a little more supervised.
My guess on Seto is that the Sharks tried to modify his behavior and failed repeatedly long before he was traded. Seto is far from unique in having issues in this regard.
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