Proposal: Rumors and Proposals Thread | Under Sell and Over Deliver or Stuck in First Gear?
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Okay and Taylor Hall is about to be on his potential, 6th team yet people still want him. It's odd
barry halls
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Exactly! It’s a weird thing for Holland to say and makes me worried he has completely lost the plot. I want to believe in him, but we have no reason to have faith in a Bob Nicholson hire. They both come across as old guys halfway to dementia to be brutally honest.
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Boston couldn't get him signed and were worried about an offer sheet, Calgary did Calgary things and the Hurricanes can't force him to stay as a UFA.
It doesn't really seem that odd to me.
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He's been a vastly better defensive player over his career. That shouldn't be a worry.
This seems an odd thing to say. We’ve been in a playoff position both years he’s been at the helm.
He’s already indicated he wants to make this team successful now and in the future so he’s not going to make knee jerk decisions.
I'd rather have Bouchard play on the #1 PP. He's earned it
Because Hamilton is a top pairing defenseman right now, and Bouchard is a raw rookie we hope might be as good as Hamilton in 4 - 5 years from now.
Defensemen take a while to incubate. The position requires a lot more strength and experience rather than raw skill.
Lol what? Take a look at where this team was before Holland. Now, take a look at it. He's lost no plot. He has a plan. He said at the press conference at the deadline that you can't go all in every year and he made the right choice last season didn't he? He has a chance to ignite his plan. He's pretty much cleaned up all of Chiaturd's mistakes
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I just read an article suggesting edmonton will take a defenseman with their 19th pick, because they have a history of taking defensemen with thier 19th pick.
I didn't link to the article, because everyone has better things to do.
I didn't link to the article, because everyone has better things to do.
I'd rather bring in a cheaper Dman so we can save money to use on depth forwards for our 2nd, 3rd, 4th lines. We lost last playoffs because our depth was trash and not because we didn't have a top pair Dman.
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bobbythebrain
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Hamilton is a horrible -ish idea for the cap hit.. If the last 2 years have shown anything is that Edm doesn't need help scoring. They need help defending and depth upfront
We need a Niskanen type dman more than we need a Barrie/ Hamilton....especially w/Bouchard coming in.
We need a Niskanen type dman more than we need a Barrie/ Hamilton....especially w/Bouchard coming in.
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The team still needs plenty of scoring when McDrai are off the ice.
A second pairing defenseman with an ounce of skill would be go a long way there.
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Just wanted to chirp in and say that GF% vs xGF% is a pet peeve of mine. I don't think either of those stats actually tell the story.
As a coach, I might recognize that my player got lucky by giving away a high-danger chance and being bailed out by his goalie. He's still sitting on the bench even if it didn't show up on his GF%.
On the flip side... if I have Shawn Horcoff or Marty Reasoner getting grade-A chance after grade-A chance in a prime scoring position... it's still not going to make me feel any better when their xGF% stats are looking better while they muffin yet another shot into the goalie's crest.
It's a double standard, but on offense I want results ("bear down... find a way"). On defense I want to minimize risk ("smart decisions").... but it speaks to my point that neither of these stats are all that useful, but if I have to choose, I'm looking for results rather than expected results.
By the end of the series Nurse was playing 4 and 5 minute shifts because most of the Oiler's defensemen were liabilities in a fast paced, high pressure environment. The depth problems of the Oilers effects both the forwards and defense, a problem exasperated by the fact that Barrie probably won't be back.
Depth scoring forwards would help more than another offensive Dman. Barrie showed us that last season
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