HolyHagelin
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Fwiw fox dominates makar in relative corsi, and Hughes dominates them both
If he repeats the year again. He definitely deserves an improved rep but we’ve seen two other Dmen stats blow up then come back down in the last two yearsIf Quinn wins, would that put him with Makar now? Was a discussion a few years back and was kind of scoffed at, but it's now looking like it could be a good debate pretty quick ehre.
Seriously? I was actually just joking. Bouch is my fav Oiler but I do get he's not a Norris candidate.lolBouchard came 6th in voting
Take that back!You are such a bad oilers fan.lol
Seriously? I was actually just joking. Bouch is my fav Oiler but I do get he's not a Norris candidate.lol
I'm a Canucks fan and Quinn should and will win the Norris but Makar is still viewed as the better Dman by most I would think and for a reason.If Quinn wins, would that put him with Makar now? Was a discussion a few years back and was kind of scoffed at, but it's now looking like it could be a good debate pretty quick ehre.
I mean, he's been pretty impressive, almost Hart worthy season. It should be something to consider at SOME point. It's getting tougher to ignore.
Also, I'm more of an Adam Fox guy myself. I think he get's shafted a wee bit too much.
One day when the machines take over this will be all that will be left of HF Boards, AI beings flashing cards on their mainframes at each other.
I'm not going to say that Hughes was dominant in his age 20 playoff but considering the team he was on that year it was a pretty impressive playoff.No not until he's shows some playoff dominance. Well deserved Norris this year though.
Alright lads, Makar gained two points on Hughes tonight -- let's just gift the Norris now
Apparently neither does a -2 (on for all 3 goals against) and being ass defensively all game lol.Sorry, powerplay points don't count or something
He's lucky he got his one.Kind of sad that Fox will only win 3-5 Norrises in his career when he'd probably deserve 7-10 of them.
You'd feel differently if he was on your team.He's lucky he got his one.
Apparently neither does a -2 (on for all 3 goals against) and being ass defensively all game lol.
Now down to 39 GF% without MacKinnon on the ice.
Oh well, of course they look better when they play together. Then they have a 58 GF% and a 55.5 xGF%!
MacKinnon without Makar on the ice: 65.31 GF%, 58.66 xGF%.
People usually talk about other players playing better next to McDavid and being statistically carried by him. Well, at least a guy like Draisaitl can hold his own without him. It's obvious that Makar is being carried this season.
I'm sorry, this is just not Makar's year.
What site lets you check advanced stats removed from certain teammates?
Then go to Players -> Line Tool -> Pick the team you wanna check and click and hit "Submit". Then you can choose the players you wanna compare.
Comes out like this:
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I'm not going to say that Hughes was dominant in his age 20 playoff but considering the team he was on that year it was a pretty impressive playoff.
Also it's not like the Avs as a team have been way better than the Canucks and are constructed much better, these 2 players aside than the Canucks are or have been during both players careers.
Hughes will win the Norris and Maakr will still be considered the best Dman in the league going into next season but that's still underappreciating how good Hughes has been for a while now.
No no no no no, it's both. It just happens that Makar and Hughes are head and shoulders above Forsling, Slavin, and Heiskanen offensively (and then some). Hughes and Makar also very good defensively. The gap defensively speaking is miniscule compared to the gap in offense which is expansive.It's between Hughes and Makar. Makar is better overall, but this might be Hughes' year.
Also, I wish we could consider players like Forsling, Slavin and Heiskanen in these discussions. But alas, it's become a point scoring trophy.
Now down to 39 GF% without MacKinnon on the ice.
Oh well, of course they look better when they play together. Then they have a 58 GF% and a 55.5 xGF%!
MacKinnon without Makar on the ice: 65.31 GF%, 58.66 xGF%.
People usually talk about other players playing better next to McDavid and being statistically carried by him. Well, at least a guy like Draisaitl can hold his own without him. It's obvious that Makar is being carried this season.
I'm sorry, this is just not Makar's year.