Proposal: Guess Karlsson's 10 team no trade list

[TorontoTrades]

The 10 worst teams in the league. He'll go anywhere with a playoff chance as he'll get to pick where he goes in a year and a half.

 

[The Alien]

I'm with the people printing out he would like to maximize his list. Teams like Vancouver and Arizona might not be on it because they are rebuilding and wouldn't want to put up their futures anyways. Maybe Zona... I suppose they could offer up OEL+ a younger asset or two.

 

[malcb33]

Not that I’ve been following this saga too closely (just what TSN has been saying) but I was wondering if this attitude of getting “what he is worth” potentially steams from advise from his close friend Alfy?

 

[MisterNoItAll]

Why would he want to go to Arizona lol? Why would anyone want to?

 

[snopro31]

Winnipeg - Location, perceived weather issues among many, owners with spending limit


HM - any west coast team (travel)

I left Edmonton off for the McDavid factor and the new arena, and Florida off for the tax break factor.

There is nothing wrong with the weather in Manitoba.
I thought these were hockey players?

 

[Nico the Draft Riser]

NHL Network and EJ Hradek proposed:

Erik Karlsson to NJ for Severson, Zacha, McLeod, 2018 1st and if he re-signs a 2019 1st.

Id rather switch McLeod for Quenneville but id do that from NJs perspective

Karlsson would be a perfect fit in NJ

 

[Kamina]

Toronto
Montreal
Boston
Buffalo
Florida
Detroit
Calgary
Anaheim
Arizona
Carolina

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Toronto
Edmonton
Winnipeg
Montreal
Calgary
Vancouver
Arizona
Buffalo
Carolina
Florida



Avs aren't going to be on his list. He and Landeskog are very good friends and no doubt if Karlsson were to be traded that friendship would play a significant role in him at least not being upset with a trade here.


It would include the 6 Canadian teams for obvious reasons, as well as Carolina, Florida, Buffalo, and Arizona IMO. The first 2 because of attendance and fan base issues making the teams unattractive to go to as a star player, the 2nd two because of significant signs that they're about to re-enter into a lengthy rebuild.

 

[ITM]

1. Montreal
2. Arizona
3. Detroit
4. Buffalo
5. Colorado
6. Columbus
7. New York (x2)
8. Florida
9. Vegas
10. Edmonton
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I think more importantly, that were Karlsson to look at clubs with a chance of winning the Cup, he's got to be salivating at the prospect of joining Tampa or Nashville. And I think these two clubs represent the clubs who possess well-respected scouting programs, who have the space to accommodate a move and who have the best chance at a Cup.

I'd put money down on the Lightning nabbing him.

 

[Ocoee]

Toronto
Montreal
Detroit
Arizona
Dallas
Florida
Vancouver
LA
Colorado
NYR (for leverage)

 

[loadie]

LA
San Jose
Anaheim
Dallas
Tampa Bay
Florida
Vegas
Arizona
Carolina
Nashville

EK doesn't like being in the sun too much with his pale complexion. His Dermatologist told me...honest.

 

[Dan Kelly]

There is nothing wrong with the weather in Manitoba.
I thought these were hockey players?

fans seem to forget this sometimes.

 

[Dan Kelly]

this thread should be renamed "the 10 teams you dislike therefore you don't want to see Karlsson traded to"

 

[BernieParent]

Go to the kings. Doughty, karlsson and quick. Win every game 1-0. Done

Because Doughty - Karlsson are such masters at shut-down defense?

 

[lanceuppercut75]

NHL Network and EJ Hradek proposed:

Erik Karlsson to NJ for Severson, Zacha, McLeod, 2018 1st and if he re-signs a 2019 1st.

Id rather switch McLeod for Quenneville but id do that from NJs perspective

Karlsson would be a perfect fit in NJ

Do Devils fans like this? It looks half decent for Ottawa if Karlsson demands a trade and is leaving no matter what.

Who plays top 9 center for the Devils then though? Hischier and Zajac and ... who?

 

[Nico the Draft Riser]

Do Devils fans like this? It looks half decent for Ottawa if Karlsson demands a trade and is leaving no matter what.

Who plays top 9 center for the Devils then though? Hischier and Zajac and ... who?

Brian Boyle

Then Blake Coleman is 4C. Pretty good center depth

 

[50 in 07]

Do Devils fans like this? It looks half decent for Ottawa if Karlsson demands a trade and is leaving no matter what.

Who plays top 9 center for the Devils then though? Hischier and Zajac and ... who?

As an Ottawa fan I would not be OK with this. McLeod and a couple of firsts are all unknowns. Zacha has put up extremely underwhelming numbers. Severson is a nice piece don't get me wrong but he can't be the only legit NHL talent coming back in a deal for Karlsson.

IMO Ottawa would let teams negotiate with Karlsson before a trade to maximize their return (obviously assuming they know he isn't staying in Ottawa 100%). With that in mind I'd want Hischier+ in any deal with NJ.

 

[Channelcat]

Its a bizarre irony, but apparently Ottawa is on his list.

 

[lanceuppercut75]

IMO Ottawa would let teams negotiate with Karlsson before a trade to maximize their return (obviously assuming they know he isn't staying in Ottawa 100%). With that in mind I'd want Hischier+ in any deal with NJ.

I don't think Karlsson can sign an extension before July 1st... any talks or negotiations before then wouldn't be set in stone or specific / exact numbers. He could easily go to a team in good faith and have a miserable time and not extend in July.

You won't get Hischier for 1.5 years of Karlsson... you would more likely get Hall than Hischier.

 

[lanceuppercut75]

Its a bizarre irony, but apparently Ottawa is on his list.

If true, what would this actually mean? Karlsson flat out did not want to choose a 10th team and is perfectly happy going to 21 teams?

I don't get it...

Or does it mean he doesn't want Ottawa to to be able to trade to get him back afterwards, if they do trade him?

 

[50 in 07]

I don't think Karlsson can sign an extension before July 1st... any talks or negotiations before then wouldn't be set in stone or specific / exact numbers. He could easily go to a team in good faith and have a miserable time and not extend in July.

You won't get Hischier for 1.5 years of Karlsson... you would more likely get Hall than Hischier.

No matter how bad the Senators are doing currently, do you genuinely think they would trade Karlsson without even having the chance to negotiate an extension themselves? How would that make any sense considering he's the best player to have ever played for them.

All indication so far are that Karlsson wants to win with the Senators, and the Senators want to keep him. All of this trade speculation is assuming he flat out tells management over the summer that he is not staying no matter what, which is a huge assumption in itself.

Karlsson isn't getting traded before July 1, if at all. And if he is, the team acquiring him will have lined up an extension for him before the deal gets done because it maximizes the return for Ottawa and mitigates any risk for the other team. Just look at Turris signing his extension with Nashville about 5 minutes after he got traded.

 

[lanceuppercut75]

No matter how bad the Senators are doing currently, do you genuinely think they would trade Karlsson without even having the chance to negotiate an extension themselves? How would that make any sense considering he's the best player to have ever played for them.

It depends on the situation going on behind the scenes that we are not privy to.

IF Ottawa KNOWS Karlsson will not re-sign (he told them) and IF they truly feel they will miss the playoffs... in that situation, you might get more trading him now than of you wait until the summer. That also assumes he won't sign and trade in the summer to maximize OTT's return in the trade.

In that situation though, it makes perfect sense to me to trade him now instead of later, to get the best return.

 

[57special]

I don't see MN being on the list. Brodin, Ek, and Olofsson are all young Swedes on the team. I'm sure he would be tickled to play with either Suter or Brodin as D partners. Who knows? Maybe he wants to spend his off hours on the beach, or in the desert.

 

[Royale With Cheese]

Erik Karlsson "I will only play in glamorous cities!"

Does Monaco have an NHL team? I forget.

 

[DCarriere]

Montreal - spotlight when struggling, team seems to be in a state of misdirection
NY Islanders - location uncertainty, history of being bad, risk of losing their only other superstar to free agency
Vancouver - rebuilding
Arizona - rebuilding with no shown improvement
Buffalo - see Arizona
Winnipeg - Location, perceived weather issues among many, owners with spending limit
Colorado - see Arizona
New Jersey - not sure, even though they are improving they still seem to be seen as a bad team by many. Lots of misconceptions that could have them on the list
Calgary - Location/travel times, old junky arena, media spotlight could be a deterrent as with any Canadian team.
Vegas - too new, despite their success this year they are still probably years away from contending - few "core" pieces to build a contender around so far. Good depth, lots of good players, but no "great" players to lead the charge to a cup win.

HM - any west coast team (travel)

I left Edmonton off for the McDavid factor and the new arena, and Florida off for the tax break factor.

Winnipeg has an owner with a spending limit? I think there's something called a "salary cap"....