Proposal: Fire Ken Holland 2023-2024 Edition

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

There’s people that get paid far more money than I’ll ever see to make those decisions. I don’t know who’s out there but I’d get started now.

Absolutely you get started now, and I would hope (hope!) JJ is doing just that as I cant see Kenny being the GM here past this season. New GM incoming this summer. Probably new coaching staff and lets hope and pray for a new goalie coach as well.

Agreed- probably best to leave it alone until season's end and then do a thorough search with the whole league as your target. Did someone say that his son is the favorite to take over?

Stauffer did I think.

 

[ConnorNova0929]

Too funny-who was Brandon Manning?

The guy who tripped McDavid resulting in the broken collarbone in his rookie year lol. Chiarelli was something else in his last few months with the team.

 

[KlefDown]

Anyone defending Ken Holland at this point clearly doesn’t love this team

 

[MoontoScott]

Absolutely you get started now, and I would hope (hope!) JJ is doing just that as I cant see Kenny being the GM here past this season. New GM incoming this summer. Probably new coaching staff and lets hope and pray for a new goalie coach as well.



Stauffer did I think.

I wonder if Bobby Burgers has some kids who would like to apply?

 

[MoontoScott]

The guy who tripped McDavid resulting in the broken collarbone in his rookie year lol. Chiarelli was something else in his last few months with the team.

Thanks--completely forgot about that idiot move.

Yup, compared to Chia, Kenny looks like Sam Pollock.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Ken Holland decided that the goaltending duo of Skinner and Campbell was good enough to win the Cup.

Enough said.

 

[Old Boys Club]

Should've been fired the instant Nurse got 9.25.

 

[Dan Kelly]

Should've been fired the instant Nurse got 9.25.

Ya that was bloody bad !!

 

[Trafalgar Sadge Law]

Should've been fired the instant Nurse got 9.25.

Should've never been hired in the first place.

 

[Echodek]

Fire Holland? Sure, he probably deserves it. But replace him with who? Aren’t they grooming his son to take over? Shame they let Staios go.

 

[McAsuno]

This f***ing fraud can gloat about all his precious rings from Detroit all he wants. His legacy will be stained by failing to win a cup with McDavid and Draisaitl under his team. GFY Holland. By far the most overrated GM in NHL history.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Yup, firing time. Also should be Jack Campbell's last time wearing Oilers' silks along with that

 

[RandomGuy79]

We cannot even afford to ice a full lineup. To get us out of this mess its going to cost us dearly.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

He might honestly be worse than Chiarelli.

 

[Beerfish]

It is not the oiler way under katz to hold anyone accountable. Holland will retire at the end of the year and will say a we are disappointed and then list all the excuses as he leaves the team in a shambles.

Then all the dopey media types that defended his every move for his entire tenure will turn on him and blame him for everything.

 

[Soundwave]

Fire him now. There's no point in just keeping him for appearance's sake, he had his kick at the can and it's a failure.

Even putting aside the lower scoring rut the team is in, even if we were 5-5 as a record right now, he failed to build a proper blue line and built a trash goaltending tandem, and as such it's an auto fail.

For his team build to work we needed to see improvement from the D or goaltending, and both are even worse.

It's like doing a final exam and just skipping the multiple choice section, like you probably have failed just on that basis.

Move Keith Gretzky or whoever to interim GM and just keep it as such until a slam dunk candidate is available.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Get this f***ing guy out of here. He needs to go now and the new GM can decide what he wants to do with the coaching. Holland has already axed 1 coach and is a lame duck GM. Even if McDavid is hurt that does not excuse the rest of the team to be this bad.

 

[NashtoNowitzki]

Gonna post this for what feels like the hundredth time:

I've said it before and I'll say it again; hopefully one day the fact we have 2 supernovas on this team will stop fooling the dumber half of this fanbase into thinking Ken Holland is a good gm. He has surrounded them with inferior garbage for 4 years, and we can fire him any day now.

Does him adding a couple of complimentary forwards over a 4 year span, while eating his own shit on bottom 6, defense, goaltending, drafting, and salary cap impress anyone anymore? He is incompetent.

 

[Ritchie Valens]

I'm curious if Holland still has the "100% full autonomy" Katz said he had at his introductory press conference.

 

[Zguy370]

I'm curious if Holland still has the "100% full autonomy" Katz said he had at his introductory press conference.

Are you referring to that quote from Katz 4 years ago? If this is still the case, it's a really scary thought from what we've seen in his tenure here so far, hopefully he's already outta the picture, and Jackson is involved in the decision makings with Katz s' blessing

 

[Ritchie Valens]

Are you referring to that quote from Katz 4 years ago? If this is still the case, it's a really scary thought from what we've seen in his tenure here so far, hopefully he's already outta the picture, and Jackson is involved in the decision makings with Katz s' blessing

Yep...so I hope Jackson has some clout and not as much patience with Holland

Katz then addressed the fan base directly. “We have not delivered on the promise we made to our fans in recent years. You know it and I know it and we all know it. And while accountability for this falls on everyone in our organization, it starts and it stops with me. I want you to know we’re listening to our fans. We get it. And we’re doing everything we can to get it right. Secondly, Ken will report to Bob and have full autonomy on all hockey matters and personnel, but the two of them will work collaboratively and Bob will keep me in the loop and up to speed relative to what they’re doing as he has in the past.

 

[Soundwave]

Yep...so I hope Jackson has some clout and not as much patience with Holland

Katz then addressed the fan base directly. “We have not delivered on the promise we made to our fans in recent years. You know it and I know it and we all know it. And while accountability for this falls on everyone in our organization, it starts and it stops with me. I want you to know we’re listening to our fans. We get it. And we’re doing everything we can to get it right. Secondly, Ken will report to Bob and have full autonomy on all hockey matters and personnel, but the two of them will work collaboratively and Bob will keep me in the loop and up to speed relative to what they’re doing as he has in the past.

Apparently "getting it" doesn't include understanding that you have to have a defense and goalie in the NHL.

 

[FanOfSadTeam]

Holland signing leftover Campbell and Nurse to that massive contract is what killed this team. Absolutely f***ed the McDrai era.

 

[McMozesmadness]

Ken created one hell of a mess. We need to fire him before it gets worse. He can’t be the one to clean this up

 

[Soundwave]

Fire his ass.