Lil Sebastian Cossa
Opinions are share are my own personal opinions.
- Jul 6, 2012
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Best looking male in the league
That hair/beard combo will not be matched
He always was a damn handsome man.
Best looking male in the league
That hair/beard combo will not be matched
Why would I be upset about a broken down player retiring? I miss the Z from 5+ years ago. The current Z will not be missed. I have no desire to see a (now) mediocre player, play poorly for a bottom feeding team. I don't see why that would be fun for me, or anyone really.
He was my favorite Wing. We don't win the Cup in 08 without his efforts and without him the team would likely have gone to mediocrity already back then as well. I don't know if I am sad about it, it's natural. Even Chelios couldn't cheat nature forever.
I'm the same age as Zetterberg, and it's just the passage of time. It's funny because when you start watching sports the players are all much older than you..then they are around your age and finally they're all younger than you. Takes a while to get used to the fact that the last phase is the longest in life.
For the Wings the "Z&D" era really already ended a few years ago. It probably should have ended sooner to be honest. I appreciate Z only played for the Wings but trading him after 2011 may have been sensible for both the Wings and him...for the Wings to initiate a quicker rebuild and for Z to finish his career on a team that isn't just an also-ran.
There's no point in debating with them. They're only interested in getting attention. Pisses me off though that one of the best players and leaders of his generation can't have a respectful retirement thread.
For one, it's not really all that much hindsight given I talked about it several years ago. Obviously I knew it'd never happen given this front office only admitted about 6 months ago that they're in a rebuilding scenario - smart fans noticed this over 5 years ago, even the dumbest fans probably about a year ago.
Secondly, the decision to trade someone is not derived from their current value but the value they have in relation to your team's ability to win a Cup. The Wings were not a Cup contender then and with their stars ageing and declining..they weren't really in position to be one again with their core (reality proved this quite convincingly as they didn't even get close to contending again).
Once they're no longer a contender, the smart team drops what they have of value for the current cycle and picks up stuff useful in the next cycle. Zetterberg was a very useful player then, so one could have gotten something useful in return. Useful not for 2012 or 2013, but useful for 2017, 2018 and so forth. What valuable thing did Wings fans or Wings stakeholders get between 2012 and 2018? Abysmal playoff failures? A slow but steady skid into terrible team territory? Rebuilding before it's obvious to even the last sentimentally attached fan out there gives you the distinct advantage of not wasting several years in no man's land while you're figuring out what to do. The Wings failed to do that, some fans knew it then, some fans still can barely accept it now. Sad.
Ya as an outsider I don't think his should be retired. Considering the bar for Detroit players is a little higher as you've had a ton of stars. I don't think he makes the cut or should. Hit 80 or more points 3 times and broke 30 goals 4 times high of 43. I know he did a lot more then score though being a great defensive player as well. A great career regardless sad to go that way.Major, Major Debate there... Going to be fascinating
Class act and a great player. Was hoping he could hang in there long enough to hit 1000 but I'm glad he's putting his health first.
Is the cap penalty for retired players Cap Hit minus Total Salary?
He’s going on LTIR. So same cap ramifications as Franzen
Did the Wings confirm this? Seen a lot of discussion around it, not sure what to believe at this point.
EDIT: Yup, you're right. "Assistant general manager Ryan Martin said the Wings will place Zetterberg on LTIR when they need relief." –St. James
I mean, that's what makes sense. Z announcing his retirement is no different than what Pronger, Franzen, etc. did, so it should be treated indentically. If Hossa can get away with quite literally "I would play with this disgusting gunk for 7M but not for 3M", Zetterberg would have no issues saying "My back is ****ed and it's quite literally never going to get better."
For sure, that **** is just confusing. I read "Zetterberg retires" and think he retired, but I guess technically he didn't.
Because it’s the end of a fabulous career? Because even broke down he was still damn good?
Because one of the two last holdovers from the prior era is gone.
If you can promise me you weren’t sad at Yzermans retirement or you don’t at all post your reaction at Z’s retirement ceremony when it happens this season... I’ll believe you. If you did or you do, you’re full of crap.
Rare that you and I agree, but am 100% with you on this one.This is decidedly not good news. This is the end of an era of one of the greatest people to wear the winged wheel. Anyone happy about him being so broken that he can't play is sick in my mind.