Confirmed Signing with Link: [WPG] Josh Morrissey signs extension with Jets (8 years, $6.25M AAV)

[Do or Die]

Myers is a roller coaster. You will have a 10-12 game stretch where people say "Why do people dump on this guy, that much." You will then have the next 15.....where you understand why.

 

[thadd]

HOLY **** Connor can sign for 5M per year for 8 years or eat crow!
This is insane! I just scrolled back up to re-check that it was an 8 year contract.
That's gotta hurt Provorov's contract negotiations.
WTH.
This makes Klefbom (health playing 82 games a year) look a lot worse and he's making less than 4.2M per year.
W0W!

 

[nzoilerfan]

Great comparable option for Oilers to use in Darnell Nurse contract negotiations.

 

[MardyBum]

Most likely his boyhood friend, Brady Skjei, to start with. Skjei is an average-ish 2nd-pairing dman.

Oh they grew up together? Hah that must be sweet for them. Pionk's from the same hometown as one of our D prospects Dylan Samberg and they know each other, could end up playing together next year if he signs.

 

[flyerslducks]

HOLY **** Connor can sign for 5M per year for 8 years or eat crow!
This is insane! I just scrolled back up to re-check that it was an 8 year contract.
That's gotta hurt Provorov's contract negotiations.
WTH.
This makes Klefbom (health playing 82 games a year) look a lot worse and he's making less than 4.2M per year.
W0W!

ya i was hoping provy can get 6.25 for 6 years as he is looking at 6 or 3 years. Interesting to see what he gets now

 

[OutsideLookingIn]

Now, just off the top of your head, why do you think those offers fell through?

What offers fell through?

 

[fsanford]

Great deal , Morrissey one of my favorite D-Men in the league, at 6.25 per a steal

 

[MikeK]

Fantastic deal for WPG given the landscape of today's NHL salary structure.

 

[780il]

If JoMo got 6.25 on an 8 year deal Holland needs to call Nurse's agent rn and offer an 8x5.85 to him.

 

[Zhamnov5GoalGame]

What offers fell through?

The only team I saw named was the Pens.
Apparently they offered a better deal then NY but backed off once they found out that Trouba was refusing to sign an extension with them. A couple of other unnamed teams reportedly in the same boat.

 

[oilerbear]

When I first started developing my 40+ theories.

I looked at what type of team advanced in playoffs.
-Top GA teams advance to final 40% more than top GF teams.
-7 of 8 final 4 teams are top GA teams.

- Closed ( None scoreable) shots occur when they hit a goalie who moves with the puck like a table hockey goalie. Only shots that hit open space in net Elevation ( open shots ) are scoreable and require movement for a save from a goalie.
This Was a 45 yr old observation as a 10 yr old watching 7 yr old Ron Gunville ( Player Personel Director of WHL Champ PA Raiders) move with the ball like a table hockey goalie.

- my HD area ( homeplate) is the real DZ.
Shots go in 5 times more than any other area.

- off dmen are not dmen they are Rovers.
( yup I am the one who drives this)
When you look at structures. Everyone thinks of the 3-2-1 structure.
But when you look at zones: true dz ( homeplate), inside own Blue (Perimeter) LD Area, NZ, OZ.
Rovers occupy a higher % non homeplate time than real dmen.

-Rovers create a high% of 3F - 1R - 1D -1G structure.

-Rovers must be compared to Forwards when looking at Offence.
They occupy a high% of OZ, NZ, perimeter space as forwards.

- Rovers abandon Def of Homeplate yielding high EVGa/60 to their side.
Rovers create a 1D - 1G def of true DZ ( homeplate)
They yeild a free path to their side of the critical (final 4 team) 2D -1G homeplate def structure.
They yeild a high open high density shot rate to their uncovered side. That leads to the brutal evga rates to their side.

Rover play translates in the CHL but not in NHL.
Three yrs ago the median save% in NHL was .918.
This yr.
Median save % in AHL .906
Median save% WHL .902 close to AHL standard.
Median save% Qmjhl .895
Median save% OHL .890
The ratio between perimeter and homeplate success is like 80’s play in OHL and Qmjhl.
Not the 5 - 1 NHL ratio of 5 yrs ago.

The median this yr was .912.
Last year the top range of starting goalies Save % increased by .004 so it was not the equipment change.
We see many more teams go to a higher % 3-1-1-1 driven system.
Resulting in a higher:
Abandoning of Homeplate.
higher % of open high density shots to rovers side.
Resulting in higher evga rates.
median evga/60
16/17 2.39 evga/60


CHL scouts I have talked to agree with the Rover 3-1-1-1 structure.
That is all the “you are correct” I need.


Morissey is a Rover not a dmen.

We know goals generate offence.
Players recieve points from assists.
But are dependent on another player finishing and generating the points.



Morrisey:

Defence:
compared to other top 6 (186) ev min Rovers and dmen.
He is Bottom 55 - 2.91 evga/60.
That is as a pair. Not to his side were we see 4.00 - 5.00 to their abandoned side.

Offence: compared to 492 ev min skaters (372) top 12 fwds and (210) top 7 rover/ dmen.
His .11evg/60 is #513 of 582 skaters.
He is not driving winning play by scoring goals.

His 1.08 Evp/60 is #387 of 582 skaters.
He is not a critical driver of scoring thru his passing.

Holland said it best this summer
“some of the dmen (Rovers) have to learn to attack as 4th and 5 th options being aware to maintain def.”

Teams with high % 3-1-1-1 structure that yeild high% of Open shot rates like Toronto, Cgy, are knocked out in first round.

Bottom 55 evga/60
#513 evg/60
#387 evp/60
For 6.25 M AAV.

Well at least it is not E. Karlsson
Bottom 26 Dman/rover 3.25 evga/60
.06 evg/60 #552 of 582 skaters.
1.45 evp/60 #267 of 582 skaters
For 11.5M AAV.

 

[HFBS]

Winnipeg is doing a great job getting lots of team friendly deals

Trouba and Laine say hi.

 

[Zhamnov5GoalGame]

When I first started developing my 40+ theories.

I looked at what type of team advanced in playoffs.
-Top GA teams advance to final 40% more than top GF teams.
-7 of 8 final 4 teams are top GA teams.

- Closed ( None scoreable) shots occur when they hit a goalie who moves with the puck like a table hockey goalie. Only shots that hit open space in net Elevation ( open shots ) are scoreable and require movement for a save from a goalie.
This Was a 45 yr old observation as a 10 yr old watching 7 yr old Ron Gunville ( Player Personel Director of WHL Champ PA Raiders) move with the ball like a table hockey goalie.

- my HD area ( homeplate) is the real DZ.
Shots go in 5 times more than any other area.

- off dmen are not dmen they are Rovers.
( yup I am the one who drives this)
When you look at structures. Everyone thinks of the 3-2-1 structure.
But when you look at zones: true dz ( homeplate), inside own Blue (Perimeter) LD Area, NZ, OZ.
Rovers occupy a higher % non homeplate time than real dmen.

-Rovers create a high% of 3F - 1R - 1D -1G structure.

-Rovers must be compared to Forwards when looking at Offence.
They occupy a high% of OZ, NZ, perimeter space as forwards.

- Rovers abandon Def of Homeplate yielding high EVGa/60 to their side.
Rovers create a 1D - 1G def of true DZ ( homeplate)
They yeild a free path to their side of the critical (final 4 team) 2D -1G homeplate def structure.
They yeild a high open high density shot rate to their uncovered side. That leads to the brutal evga rates to their side.

Rover play translates in the CHL but not in NHL.
Three yrs ago the median save% in NHL was .918.
This yr.
Median save % in AHL .906
Median save% WHL .902 close to AHL standard.
Median save% Qmjhl .895
Median save% OHL .890
The ratio between perimeter and homeplate success is like 80’s play in OHL and Qmjhl.
Not the 5 - 1 NHL ratio of 5 yrs ago.

The median this yr was .912.
Last year the top range of starting goalies Save % increased by .004 so it was not the equipment change.
We see many more teams go to a higher % 3-1-1-1 driven system.
Resulting in a higher:
Abandoning of Homeplate.
higher % of open high density shots to rovers side.
Resulting in higher evga rates.
median evga/60
16/17 2.39 evga/60


CHL scouts I have talked to agree with the Rover 3-1-1-1 structure.
That is all the “you are correct” I need.


Morissey is a Rover not a dmen.

We know goals generate offence.
Players recieve points from assists.
But are dependent on another player finishing and generating the points.



Morrisey:

Defence:
compared to other top 6 (186) ev min Rovers and dmen.
He is Bottom 55 - 2.91 evga/60.
That is as a pair. Not to his side were we see 4.00 - 5.00 to their abandoned side.

Offence: compared to 492 ev min skaters (372) top 12 fwds and (210) top 7 rover/ dmen.
His .11evg/60 is #513 of 582 skaters.
He is not driving winning play by scoring goals.

His 1.08 Evp/60 is #387 of 582 skaters.
He is not a critical driver of scoring thru his passing.

Holland said it best this summer
“some of the dmen (Rovers) have to learn to attack as 4th and 5 th options being aware to maintain def.”

Teams with high % 3-1-1-1 structure that yeild high% of Open shot rates like Toronto, Cgy, are knocked out in first round.

Bottom 55 evga/60
#513 evg/60
#387 evp/60
For 6.25 M AAV.

Well at least it is not E. Karlsson
Bottom 26 Dman/rover 3.25 evga/60
.06 evg/60 #552 of 582 skaters.
1.45 evp/60 #267 of 582 skaters
For 11.5M AAV.

are you in the right thread?

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

This is considered a steal?

 

[Peggy]

You can say what you want about Myers, he's still better then any RHD except Buff. Screwing the Trouba trade is huge as well. Everyone knew what Trouba wanted long before the trade, it has already come out that there were much better offers. And not having Laine or Connor signed, seems to point to him having a terrible offseason. This team needs a change up top and behind the bench.

Lol no. Morrisey is better than trouba defensively. Morrisey keeps getting better and better offensively.
I would like to keep Myers for 3rd paring at 4 mill or less. You can keep Myers man. Glad he got paid. Just glad it's not with the jets

 

[tictactoe]

Maybe Eklund was thinking that Josh Morrisseywas going to sign 99% today.

 

[BB88]

One of the best contracts signed this summer.

 

[My3Sons]

Very happy for WPG fans and very happy for small market fans everywhere who have to listen to the constant drum beating from big market teams about every good player wanting out of smaller markets. At least for today, this signing is proof this isn't always true.

 

[ijuka]

This is considered a steal?

If the best D on Jets last season makes less than two others...

 

[Amorgus]

Didn't know he played hockey...

On a more serious note...Wow - a good signing for both sides...Locking him up for what will likely be the remainder of his career as an NHL'er.

Did he sing this at the bargaining table?

 

[Weezeric]

When I first started developing my 40+ theories.

I looked at what type of team advanced in playoffs.
-Top GA teams advance to final 40% more than top GF teams.
-7 of 8 final 4 teams are top GA teams.

- Closed ( None scoreable) shots occur when they hit a goalie who moves with the puck like a table hockey goalie. Only shots that hit open space in net Elevation ( open shots ) are scoreable and require movement for a save from a goalie.
This Was a 45 yr old observation as a 10 yr old watching 7 yr old Ron Gunville ( Player Personel Director of WHL Champ PA Raiders) move with the ball like a table hockey goalie.

- my HD area ( homeplate) is the real DZ.
Shots go in 5 times more than any other area.

- off dmen are not dmen they are Rovers.
( yup I am the one who drives this)
When you look at structures. Everyone thinks of the 3-2-1 structure.
But when you look at zones: true dz ( homeplate), inside own Blue (Perimeter) LD Area, NZ, OZ.
Rovers occupy a higher % non homeplate time than real dmen.

-Rovers create a high% of 3F - 1R - 1D -1G structure.

-Rovers must be compared to Forwards when looking at Offence.
They occupy a high% of OZ, NZ, perimeter space as forwards.

- Rovers abandon Def of Homeplate yielding high EVGa/60 to their side.
Rovers create a 1D - 1G def of true DZ ( homeplate)
They yeild a free path to their side of the critical (final 4 team) 2D -1G homeplate def structure.
They yeild a high open high density shot rate to their uncovered side. That leads to the brutal evga rates to their side.

Rover play translates in the CHL but not in NHL.
Three yrs ago the median save% in NHL was .918.
This yr.
Median save % in AHL .906
Median save% WHL .902 close to AHL standard.
Median save% Qmjhl .895
Median save% OHL .890
The ratio between perimeter and homeplate success is like 80’s play in OHL and Qmjhl.
Not the 5 - 1 NHL ratio of 5 yrs ago.

The median this yr was .912.
Last year the top range of starting goalies Save % increased by .004 so it was not the equipment change.
We see many more teams go to a higher % 3-1-1-1 driven system.
Resulting in a higher:
Abandoning of Homeplate.
higher % of open high density shots to rovers side.
Resulting in higher evga rates.
median evga/60
16/17 2.39 evga/60


CHL scouts I have talked to agree with the Rover 3-1-1-1 structure.
That is all the “you are correct” I need.


Morissey is a Rover not a dmen.

We know goals generate offence.
Players recieve points from assists.
But are dependent on another player finishing and generating the points.



Morrisey:

Defence:
compared to other top 6 (186) ev min Rovers and dmen.
He is Bottom 55 - 2.91 evga/60.
That is as a pair. Not to his side were we see 4.00 - 5.00 to their abandoned side.

Offence: compared to 492 ev min skaters (372) top 12 fwds and (210) top 7 rover/ dmen.
His .11evg/60 is #513 of 582 skaters.
He is not driving winning play by scoring goals.

His 1.08 Evp/60 is #387 of 582 skaters.
He is not a critical driver of scoring thru his passing.

Holland said it best this summer
“some of the dmen (Rovers) have to learn to attack as 4th and 5 th options being aware to maintain def.”

Teams with high % 3-1-1-1 structure that yeild high% of Open shot rates like Toronto, Cgy, are knocked out in first round.

Bottom 55 evga/60
#513 evg/60
#387 evp/60
For 6.25 M AAV.

Well at least it is not E. Karlsson
Bottom 26 Dman/rover 3.25 evga/60
.06 evg/60 #552 of 582 skaters.
1.45 evp/60 #267 of 582 skaters
For 11.5M AAV.

I sure hope Morrissey ends up as bad as E Karlsson hah

 

[hn777]

Trouba and Laine say hi.

Trouba says, Hi, I played three RFA years at a pretty high level for a total of $11.6m or an AAV of $3.87m
Laine says, Hi, I havent signed yet.

 

[matt trick]

He's a $7-8m d-man right now. This is a crazy good deal!

 

[oilerbear]

If JoMo got 6.25 on an 8 year deal Holland needs to call Nurse's agent rn and offer an 8x5.85 to him.

Nurse:

Defence:
Bottom 40 3.03 evga/60
With most of the the unsaved undefended open shot ( Goals) inside the HD area to his side.
A lot of Nurse ( any rover)out of screen not reestablishing the 2-1 Def of HD area. ( homeplate)

Offence:
.33 evg/60 #381 of 582 skaters.
1.13 evP/60 #368 of 582 skaters.

Luckily Holland stated Dmen on roster need to be taught the skill of being a 4th and 5 th option while maintaining def.

Holland/Tippet/Playfair are all saying the same thing.
We need to reduce the GA to bee playoff competative.

Have been saying from start of presenting my theories.
7 of 8 final 4 ( competing for championships) are top GA teams.

“Lowetide” taught me that a measure of a Org is championships.
2 conference & 1SC won by 2 of 31 teams.
29 losing orgs each yr.
You at least want an org that competes in the final 4.

Making playoffs is a loser mentality.
14 of 16 end up losing orgs each yr.

Russell:
Number 1: lowest % of open ( scoreable) shots per corsi to his side in the game.
He is real good at 1D - 1G def of HD area.
Number 2: Dehaan.
Top 10: Hainsey

Offence:
.14 evg/60 #492 of 582
.69 evp/60 #516 of 582

A dman that knows:
to attack without sacrificing def.
To get all top 9 forwards the puck ASAP.

For 4M AAV.
A steal!

I look at top 10-11 evg/60 starting ( top 6 ev min) each yr.
V. Dunn:
Defence: median was 2.64 evga/60 this yr.
#23 Dman 2.11 evga/60
Offence:
.45 evg/60 #320 of 582 skaters
1.36 evp/60 #320 of 582 skaters

Last yr of ELC.

 

[Royale With Cheese]

This is considered a steal?

Not sure if it’s a steal but it’s definitely a good contract for the Jets best overall defenceman.