Confirmed Signing with Link: [WPG] Josh Morrissey signs extension with Jets (8 years, $6.25M AAV)

ijuka

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You can say what you want about Myers, he's still better then any RHD except Buff. Screwing the Trouba trade is huge as well. Everyone knew what Trouba wanted long before the trade, it has already come out that there were much better offers. And not having Laine or Connor signed, seems to point to him having a terrible offseason. This team needs a change up top and behind the bench.
Spoken like someone who hasn't watched Jets a whole lot.
Myers sucks dude
Spoken like someone who has.
 

oilerbear

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He's a $7-8m d-man right now. This is a crazy good deal!

He is a rover not a dman that Occupies a high % of forward OZ, NZ, DZ perimeter space.
He scores evg like a AHL forwards.
His Evp/60 rate is 4 th line forward rate.
He is bottom 55 evga/60 dman/ rover.

That is a serious level of brutal.

He is not a Dman who covers the homeplate ( were shot go in 5 times more) in a 2D -1G GA structure.

He abandons the homeplate area to his side.
Creating a 3F - 1R - 1D -1G structure.
Forcing a 1D - 1G def of HD area.

Often the 4th or 5 th skater back orbskating to the bench as final skater behind the play.

We see a lot of EVGA with the Rover or the Dman replacing him (Cause rover is last skater in play) on late, failing to re-establish
2D - 1G def of HD area (Homeplate)

Could be worse!
E. Karlsson
Bottom 26 Dman/rover 3.25 evga/60
.06 evg/60 #552 of 582 skaters.
1.45 evp/60 #267 of 582 skaters
For 11.5M AAV.
 

heilongjetsfan

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Still lost half of his defense and failed to sign his big RFA's.
Well, we had 17M in space and those 3 defensemen cost ~18M. Trouba was gone no matter what, but even signing just the other two would make signing Connor and Laine impossible.

I don't know how you explain to yourself that Myers and Chiarot would help a team more than Connor and Laine, but I wouldn't recommend you waste your breath trying to convince anyone else.
 

heilongjetsfan

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Or you know. Just wait to announce it?

Optics aren’t very good IMO.
I love the optics. Laine and Connor both know how important JoMo is to our team. They know he gave the team a deal amd the fact that he did it a year before he even had to come to the table will tell them that he made that choice himself.

I think it sets a great example and could very well speed up negotiations and potentially even shave a small amount off of their demands.
 

Atoyot

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He is a rover not a dman that Occupies a high % of forward OZ, NZ, DZ perimeter space.
He scores evg like a AHL forwards.
His Evp/60 rate is 4 th line forward rate.
He is bottom 55 evga/60 dman/ rover.

That is a serious level of brutal.

He is not a Dman who covers the homeplate ( were shot go in 5 times more) in a 2D -1G GA structure.

He abandons the homeplate area to his side.
Creating a 3F - 1R - 1D -1G structure.
Forcing a 1D - 1G def of HD area.

Often the 4th or 5 th skater back orbskating to the bench as final skater behind the play.

We see a lot of EVGA with the Rover or the Dman replacing him (Cause rover is last skater in play) on late, failing to re-establish
2D - 1G def of HD area (Homeplate)

Could be worse!
E. Karlsson
Bottom 26 Dman/rover 3.25 evga/60
.06 evg/60 #552 of 582 skaters.
1.45 evp/60 #267 of 582 skaters
For 11.5M AAV.

That's a lot of words just to say "I've never watched this player play hockey in my life"
 

oilerbear

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Looking at lane arm length Dmen:

Myers:
Defence: median is 2.64
2.56 evga/60 #79 of 186 Dmen/ rovers
.35 evg/60 #365 ( top 12) of 582 skater
.97 evp/60 #426 (top 14) of 582 skaters
5@ 6M

Parayko:
1.87 evga/60 #10 of 186 dmen/ rovers
.22 evg/60 #444 ( top 15) of 582
.71 evp/60 #511 (top 17) of 582

Buff:
2.42 evga/60 #54 of 186 dmen/rovers
.22 evg/60 #444 (top 15) of 582
1.10 evp/60 #379 (top 13) of 582
 

SLAYER

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Looking at lane arm length Dmen:

Myers:
Defence: median is 2.64
2.56 evga/60 #79 of 186 Dmen/ rovers
.35 evg/60 #365 ( top 12) of 582 skater
.97 evp/60 #426 (top 14) of 582 skaters
5@ 6M

Parayko:
1.87 evga/60 #10 of 186 dmen/ rovers
.22 evg/60 #444 ( top 15) of 582
.71 evp/60 #511 (top 17) of 582

Buff:
2.42 evga/60 #54 of 186 dmen/rovers
.22 evg/60 #444 (top 15) of 582
1.10 evp/60 #379 (top 13) of 582

Are you okay? Do you need help?
 

heilongjetsfan

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Anyone would have got bent over in the Trouba deal, he had no leverage because Trouba wouldn't negotiate in good faith with anyone except for a select few teams.

Losing Chiarot and Myers was a positive if the only way you keep them is by giving them the salary they got.

I mentioned the RFA thing already, I guess your GM has failed the last 2 summers since Willie held out and now Marner is unsigned as well?
According to Jim Rutherford, it was one team and one team only.
 

GoJetsGo55

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He is a rover not a dman that Occupies a high % of forward OZ, NZ, DZ perimeter space.
He scores evg like a AHL forwards.
His Evp/60 rate is 4 th line forward rate.
He is bottom 55 evga/60 dman/ rover.

That is a serious level of brutal.

He is not a Dman who covers the homeplate ( were shot go in 5 times more) in a 2D -1G GA structure.

He abandons the homeplate area to his side.
Creating a 3F - 1R - 1D -1G structure.
Forcing a 1D - 1G def of HD area.

Often the 4th or 5 th skater back orbskating to the bench as final skater behind the play.

We see a lot of EVGA with the Rover or the Dman replacing him (Cause rover is last skater in play) on late, failing to re-establish
2D - 1G def of HD area (Homeplate)

Could be worse!
E. Karlsson
Bottom 26 Dman/rover 3.25 evga/60
.06 evg/60 #552 of 582 skaters.
1.45 evp/60 #267 of 582 skaters
For 11.5M AAV.

While I appreciate your dedication to advanced stats (one of the few people on this site who I will actually give some weight to their words) this feels like a case where stats don't tell the full tale.

If you ask Jets fans who our best d-man has been for the past 2 seasons, I bet Morrissey would be on the top of a lot of lists.

Trouba is great and all and Buff is a monster but as far as calming things in our own zone and moving the puck out, Josh has been our superstar.
 

NoName

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Thank god Winnipeg finally gets a happy FA story.

Excellent singing. That is Tyler Myers money at a full 8 years, meaning a few years down the road it will look very underrmarket.
 

JPeeper

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He is a rover not a dman that Occupies a high % of forward OZ, NZ, DZ perimeter space.
He scores evg like a AHL forwards.
His Evp/60 rate is 4 th line forward rate.
He is bottom 55 evga/60 dman/ rover.

That is a serious level of brutal.

He is not a Dman who covers the homeplate ( were shot go in 5 times more) in a 2D -1G GA structure.

He abandons the homeplate area to his side.
Creating a 3F - 1R - 1D -1G structure.
Forcing a 1D - 1G def of HD area.

Often the 4th or 5 th skater back orbskating to the bench as final skater behind the play.

We see a lot of EVGA with the Rover or the Dman replacing him (Cause rover is last skater in play) on late, failing to re-establish
2D - 1G def of HD area (Homeplate)

Could be worse!
E. Karlsson
Bottom 26 Dman/rover 3.25 evga/60
.06 evg/60 #552 of 582 skaters.
1.45 evp/60 #267 of 582 skaters
For 11.5M AAV.

 

heilongjetsfan

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While I appreciate your dedication to advanced stats (one of the few people on this site who I will actually give some weight to their words) this feels like a case where stats don't tell the full tale.

If you ask Jets fans who our best d-man has been for the past 2 seasons, I bet Morrissey would be on the top of a lot of lists.

Trouba is great and all and Buff is a monster but as far as calming things in our own zone and moving the puck out, Josh has been our superstar.
Please don't encourage him
 
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kylbaz

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Trouba says, Hi, I played three RFA years at a pretty high level for a total of $11.6m or an AAV of $3.87m
Laine says, Hi, I havent signed yet.

Laine is tough no matter what. Plays like a franchise player at times and fourth liner at other times. He obviously thinks he's closer to elite but Jets obviously can't and won't pay him like one. A lot of people forget but he had a great playoff. He was making plays and physical, one of the few Jets that were.
 

Zhamnov5GoalGame

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Jan 14, 2012
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He is a rover not a dman that Occupies a high % of forward OZ, NZ, DZ perimeter space.
He scores evg like a AHL forwards.
His Evp/60 rate is 4 th line forward rate.
He is bottom 55 evga/60 dman/ rover.

That is a serious level of brutal.

He is not a Dman who covers the homeplate ( were shot go in 5 times more) in a 2D -1G GA structure.

He abandons the homeplate area to his side.
Creating a 3F - 1R - 1D -1G structure.
Forcing a 1D - 1G def of HD area.

Often the 4th or 5 th skater back orbskating to the bench as final skater behind the play.

We see a lot of EVGA with the Rover or the Dman replacing him (Cause rover is last skater in play) on late, failing to re-establish
2D - 1G def of HD area (Homeplate)

Could be worse!
E. Karlsson
Bottom 26 Dman/rover 3.25 evga/60
.06 evg/60 #552 of 582 skaters.
1.45 evp/60 #267 of 582 skaters
For 11.5M AAV.

This garbage you are spewing is not in line with any one who watches him play. All the pundits think he is a very good young d-man. Nearly every poster here including all of the non-Jets fan think this is a good to great to steal of a deal.

I've seen every game he's played along with his great run at the WJHC with Canada. Your summary, the narrative you're trying to paint is not in line with reality. Your posts are like gibberish.

Well done.
 

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