So it's bad because a bunch of people on HF Board say it's bad? This is like the biggest anti-Leaf board out there.It's very easy - just look through the Simmonds and Toronto speculation threads before Simmonds signed, and you'll see a lot of people saying bad things. Here are some comments from just Leafs fans:
I can find plenty more if you'd like. It's very easy to say bad things about signing Simmonds at $1.5M given that he's been very bad over the past few years and a very sizeable portion of your own fan base was saying a lot of these bad things before he was signed.
So many bad signings from past years this has been good for him.Benning is a good GM overall.
Letting a broken down Tanev go isn't that big a deal tbh
Markstrom was amazing this year but before the season nobody thought that highly of him. Better to let him go imo. They will be more than ok with Demko/Holtby
I agree the entire Toffoli thing was mishandled though
Dubas how?
First he has been on the job only a few years.
He came into a situation where dumb dumb hunter and many people before him NEVER drafted well or ever targeted defense.
Also who is to say anybody would have signed Matty or Mitch for less? Who was getting JT for less? Yes he should have played harder ball, and JT was prob not needed, but good GM's go out and get premier free agents. Again he is young and I am sure he will learn (look at the rest of his contracts with mid tier players and you will see they are reasonable) and many GM's sell the farm on shit players.
Finally his drafting. Say what you will on the makeup of the team but he gets great value picks (not perfect) but solid. He drafts for BPA. This doesn't even get into how hard he goes after free wallets, which is also important.
Dubas is young and will keep improving. He will also make mistakes as well (Kadri trade but who knew Barrie would be that bad) but he most of the time does well (like the Kappy trade which is robbery)
This is not even mentioning how much he cares for players like when he stayed in the hospital with Mikheyev (which goes a long way with a player and agent) after his wrist injury.
Dubas is far from the worst GM lol many many more are much worse.
I think most people would rather have Barrie @ 3.75 million than Brodie, Bogosian, Simmonds, and Vesey @ 8.4 million.The horror of Dubas giving Wayne Simmonds 1 year at $1.5 million, Zach Bogosian 1 year at $1 million, and Jimmy Vesey 1 year at $900,000 how will we live with ourselves. Oh wait I forgot he also signed TJ Brodie to a 4 year contract worth $5 million who isn't scraps.
Now if you want to talk about scraps isn't that what Ken Holland did when he signed Tyson Barrie for 1 year at $3.75 million or is Barrie better because he's no longer a Maple Leaf?
During the 2019-20 season all we heard was how horrible Barrie was and why did Dubas traded Nazem Kadri for him. However since he's no longer a Toronto Maple Leaf that's not the case anymore. It reminds me of the bashing Phil Kessel got during his time in Toronto and that stopped the moment he was traded to Pittsburgh.I think most people would rather have Barrie @ 3.75 million than Brodie, Bogosian, Simmonds, and Vesey @ 8.4 million.
it's pure hab hating. nothing more.Bergevin LOL is NOT the worst GM, he's a middle of the pack GM
Rutherford and Poile have been terrible lately
So the guy who trade Subban for Weber, picks for Petry, Weise and Fleischmann for Danault and 2nd (Romanov), Pacioretty for Tatar, Suzuki and pick (Norlinder), Galchenyuk/Domi for Anderson, sign Toffoli for 4 years, 4,25 millions per year....
HE'S THE WORST GM OF THE LEAGUE?
Maybe Hfboard's is the worst FORUMS in the LIFE... that would be better option for the threads, come on, stop drugs
he's not the worst. not even close. you should sit this one out.Signed Carey Price to one of the worst contract in the league;
Try the Bridge Contract with PK Subban just before his Norris and then his career year;
Sergatchev for Drouin;
Choosing to be an asshole to Markov, then go out to sign Alzner (with everything implied with him);
Loosing Radulov for nothing;
Anderson's contract;
Shaw for 2 x 2nd;
Ott and freaking Dwight King come playoffs time,
Domi for Anderson (Domi > Anderson, in vacuum. In we throw in a pick, on top of that??);
etc.
Yeah, he's not great, thank you very much.
The ONLY thing in which Bergevin is good, when it comes to his job, is in trading.
Contract signing, and drafting, he's terrible.
But I must admit, I didn't saw coming the Toffoli signing. I will have to revise my list.
If Droiun wasn't from Quebec does Bergevin even trade Sergachev for him?Signed Carey Price to one of the worst contract in the league;
Try the Bridge Contract with PK Subban just before his Norris and then his career year;
Sergatchev for Drouin;
Choosing to be an asshole to Markov, then go out to sign Alzner (with everything implied with him);
Loosing Radulov for nothing;
Anderson's contract;
Shaw for 2 x 2nd;
Ott and freaking Dwight King come playoffs time,
Domi for Anderson (Domi > Anderson, in vacuum. In we throw in a pick, on top of that??);
etc.
Yeah, he's not great, thank you very much.
The ONLY thing in which Bergevin is good, when it comes to his job, is in trading.
Contract signing, and drafting, he's terrible.
But I must admit, I didn't saw coming the Toffoli signing. I will have to revise my list.
You're literally the last dude on this site who can criticize anyone for changing their tune on a player after he switches teams.During the 2019-20 season all we heard was how horrible Barrie was and why did Dubas traded Nazem Kadri for him. However since he's no longer a Toronto Maple Leaf that's not the case anymore. It reminds me of the bashing Phil Kessel got during his time in Toronto and that stopped the moment he was traded to Pittsburgh.
why are we discussing one trade? other gm's haven't made bad trades? poile dealing Seth Jones. Dubas with what? 45 mill tied up in 4 forwards? Saad for panarin? I can go on and onIf Droiun wasn't from Quebec does Bergevin even trade Sergachev for him?
In my 10+ years on here I have noticed the opinion of Leafs players seem to change once they are traded or leave Toronto as UFA's.You're literally the last dude on this site who can criticize anyone for changing their tune on a player after he switches teams.
For the record, Oiler fans know what to expect from Barrie. Believe it or not, not every fan base lives in a bubble like some.
It's a legit question because Drouin had that attitude problem with Tampa Bay when Steve Yzerman sent him to the AHL and he refused to report.why are we discussing one trade? other gm's haven't made bad trades? poile dealing Seth Jones. Dubas with what? 45 mill tied up in 4 forwards? Saad our panarin? I can go on and on
it was a shit trade. let's move on. Bergevin is not the worst GM in the league and the fact he's last here, shows poster are either clueless or blind haters.It's a legit question because Drouin had that attitude problem with Tampa Bay when Steve Yzerman sent him to the AHL and he refused to report.
same thing for habs. exact. same. thingIn my 10+ years on here I have noticed the opinion of Leafs players seem to change once they are traded or leave Toronto as UFA's.
If Droiun wasn't from Quebec does Bergevin even trade Sergachev for him?