Worst GM in the league right now

[Empoleon8771]

As of right now, it's Bergevin, followed by Dubas.

Wtf with Rutherford? Didn't the Pens just went back-to-back?
I'm I missing something?

Look where Bergevin took us: freaking nowhere

It's because this website ignores the fact that the goal of building a team is to win a cup, not have a great prospect pool or not make great trades or signings.

In the eyes of people on here, signing Jack Johnson counts for more of a negative than winning back to back cups as a positive.

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

They all would take him at 1.5

Actually, the vast majority of them have emphatically stated they wouldn’t.

 

[LeafsNation75]

Not the end of the world, sure. I think even you would not find it hard to say it was bad.



Are the vast majority Devils and Flyers fans who have watched Simmonds first hand over the years and said he is terrible are also just "confused fans?" Were the statistics that all show Simmonds' awful play over the past three years just tracked by "confused fans?"



That is not an exoneration of either move...

If anything how does Marc Bergevin look knowing he offered Simmonds more then $1.5 million? It's one thing for some Leafs fans to say he should have signed for $700,000 like Spezza did, but there was a GM willing to give Simmonds more money then Dubas.

 

[dubey]

Actually, the vast majority of them have emphatically stated they wouldn’t.

lol ok

And even so, like I said, each fanbase has their share of confused fans.

 

[Oilers Propagandist]

He scammed your team. Good job.

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

If anything how does Marc Bergevin look knowing he offered Simmonds more then $1.5 million? It's one thing for some Leafs fans to say he should have signed for $700,000 like Spezza did, but there was a GM willing to give Simmonds more money then Dubas.

Marc Bergevin looks like a guy who is comfortably leading this poll with twice as many votes as Dubas. Again, this is not an exoneration of Dubas or the Simmonds signing, and the goal posts have been moved far from the initial statement that I challenged.

 

[LeafsNation75]

They all would take him at 1.5

Last year when signing with New Jersey they was gave Simmonds $5 million AAV. So Dubas giving him $1.5 million is a significant pay cut for him.

 

[McJedi]

It's because this website ignores the fact that the goal of building a team is to win a cup, not have a great prospect pool or not make great trades or signings.

In the eyes of people on here, signing Jack Johnson counts for more of a negative than winning back to back cups as a positive.

Let’s be real. Pitt won cups only because the nhl rigged the Crosby lottery to your advantage. You got a free generational talent off a BS lockout lottery under dubious conditions.

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

lol ok

And even so, like I said, each fanbase has their share of confused fans.

I think you’ve made that abundantly clear.

 

[Stewie Griffin]

I voted Benning. He's signed so many bad free agent contracts, and has failed at drafting high in the draft other than Pettersson and Hughes.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Let’s be real. Pitt won cups only because the nhl rigged the Crosby lottery to your advantage. You got a free generational talent off a BS lockout lottery under dubious conditions.

Jesus Christ dude, it has literally been 15 years. Let it go.

That conspiracy theory is old enough to be in high school. And if you want to talk conspiracy theories, how about we open up the "NHL gave Toronto Matthews" conspiracy theory?

 

[South Florida Canuck]

Bill Zito. He hasn't done anything bad (yet) but it's the Panthers and that franchise is cursed.

 

[LeafsNation75]

Marc Bergevin looks like a guy who is comfortably leading this poll with twice as many votes as Dubas. Again, this is not an exoneration of Dubas or the Simmonds signing, and the goal posts have been moved far from the initial statement that I challenged.

That's basically my point. Since Bergevin was willing to give Simmonds more then $1.5 million that shows he's a worse GM then Dubas. Never mind the fact the contract he gave to Josh Anderson reminds me of when Dave Nonis signed David Clarkson to that 7 year contract worth $5.25 million AAV.

 

[DS7]

I voted Benning. He's signed so many bad free agent contracts, and has failed at drafting high in the draft other than Pettersson and Hughes.

I know it's biased, but if Kyle Dubas can land a top 4 D in Brodie with less cap room to maneuver than you. You certainly aren't among the top GMs.

I still think Benning is a middling GM though, not the worst.

 

[Alexander the Gr8]

Bargain bin, 8 years straight of pure mediocrity.

 

[Bouboumaster]

It's because this website ignores the fact that the goal of building a team is to win a cup, not have a great prospect pool or not make great trades or signings.

In the eyes of people on here, signing Jack Johnson counts for more of a negative than winning back to back cups as a positive.

100% agree.

I mean, you are paying the price right now, but still, two goddamn cups. Bak-to-freaking-back.

On the other hand, my habs still sucked ass. I had hope until recently, but with Anderson's contract, I'm stressed out lol

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

To be fair, that "sizeable portion" is probably bigger than SJ's total # of fans. The Leafs are the biggest hockey team in the world. Every team has their share of confused fans - we just have more due to the sheer size of the fanbase.

why is believing that 1.5 million for Simmonds is poor value an indication that a fan is confused?

 

[GlassesJacketShirt]

If the NHL were a flea market, Bergevin would be its' #1 customer. Bargain deals? Bergevin is in 7th heaven!

Bergevin thinks the NHL is more like a mini, mall.

 

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Benning

 

[Merrrlin]

It's because this website ignores the fact that the goal of building a team is to win a cup, not have a great prospect pool or not make great trades or signings.

In the eyes of people on here, signing Jack Johnson counts for more of a negative than winning back to back cups as a positive.

Doesn’t this make more sense if the poll was “who’s the worst GM in this offseason after Pittsburgh won their cups?”

Were allowed to adjust to what’s happened since? This isn’t a career poll, it’s a right now poll.

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

I'd say Marc Bergevin but there's a reason he's had a job this long. Some might say Doug Armstrong but he has a very good strategy.

But one who never gets heat, and should, is Stan Bowman. The guy is very overrated and rode the three cups train. He basically fired one of the best coaches in the NHL just to save his ass and replaced him with what might turn out to be one of the worst ones ever that's about to take the same credit he did as a GM like Colliton will as a coach.

But what most of us don't know is what goes behind closed doors and never leaves. All we see is the transactions and draft picks these managers make but not the other potential amazing things.

 

[Volica]

He scammed your team. Good job.

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Doesn’t your GM still need to sign Bear, get another top 4D and a starting goalie with like 5 million cap left or something?

But hey, good thing Ennis is staying in the mix and the ghost of Kyle Turris is now on the roster

Good thing the Flames GM just scammed us into the best goalie we’ve had since 34 retired.

 

[Oilers Propagandist]

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Doesn’t your GM still need to sign Bear, get another top 4D and a starting goalie with like 5 million cap left or something?

But hey, good thing Ennis is staying in the mix and the ghost of Kyle Turris is now on the roster

Good thing the Flames GM just scammed us into the best goalie we’ve had since 34 retired.

Lol k

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Stan Bowman

Been the worst GM for about 5 years now

 

[Volica]

Lol k

Lol k.