At the end of the day, I hope this doesn't devolve into a "vegan vs non vegan" thread lol. Whether someone chooses a whole food based vegan diet or the other end of the spectrum, a keto-carnivore diet, both will benefit from the same thing - cutting out over processed, hyperpalatable shit
You can definitely eat a whole food plant based diet and be healthy, but it's a lot harder. To get the protein you need, you either have to supplement or eat a shit tonne of legumes (which contains a lot of carbs).
The issue I'm having here is with the idea that animal protein is bad for us. Not only did we as a species evolve to eat animals, it is highly likely that our brains are the size they are because we did.
Think about it - if I dropped you off in the woods tomorrow, how would you survive? Would you rather you had a salad and granola bar to sustain you for a week or a giant ribeye? How do you think our ancestors survived pre-agriculture (farming has only been around for 20,000 years and includes animal husbandry)? They hunted and ate meat... and your genes are 99.99% the same as theirs
I've been around the "dietsphere" and know all the players. You really need to follow the money. The 7th Day Adventists are huge in funding the vegan movement... did you know that the church is behind pushing cereal for breakfast because they think eating grains will cause lower libidos and lead to less mastutbating?
All these vegan "experts" have their livelihood and reputation on the line (Davies, Kahn, etc....) none of them are gonna admit that the lifestyle they've been pumping for their entire lives may not be superior. Its classic cognitiven dissonance/confirmation bias.
