Value of: William Nylander to Vancouver

[Field of Dreams]

What a load of dog shit

 

[The Moose is Loose]

Leafs would be smart to do it, Virtanen could get something done in the playoffs, and the team is good enough to ensure that they will get there.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

This isn't.a particularly difficult question- Brown/Zaitsev or even moving a guy like Kapanen or Johnsson.

Only a fairly lazy GM would look to a guy like Nylander if cap savings were his biggest priority

The Leafs cap problem is bigger than that.

 

[BurgoShark]

I totally agree that Nylander’s contract is structured for a trade after July 1 2019 to a budget team with lots of cap space (e.g. Arizona).

Not suggesting he needs to be traded, but clearly that structure is there to give TO the option.

 

[Menzinger]

The Leafs cap problem is bigger than that.

Not really.

They face a tight situation next season but gain flexibility after that

 

[Menzinger]

I totally agree that Nylander’s contract is structured for a trade after July 1 2019 to a budget team with lots of cap space (e.g. Arizona).

Not suggesting he needs to be traded, but clearly that structure is there to give TO the option.

They've interestingly been structuring all of their larger contracts in a similar way (front loaded with large bonues). Likely to give management some extra options if push comes to shove

 

[Liferleafer]

Lol..because I can’t read your mind so no I don’t know the answer.

If the question is "would you trade Nylander for crap?" Ya....you know the answer.

 

[Liferleafer]

None of those is enough except possibly Marleau. He is owed 4.25 mil for his last year. Is he really likely to walk away from that? If he does, you have 1 year of grace. Then what?

Leafs D was bad this year. With those moves it is quite a bit worse. But, OK.

He is owed 1.25....the rest was bonuses.

 

[LucicAndChong]

Hopefully, a contending team will have the guts to offer-sheet Marner and give him big $$$. 4 late 1sts, who gives a ****.

I will willingly take 4 1sts + $9m in Cap Space for Marner...

 

[Canucks1096]

2 60 point season don't matter if you turn the puck over constantly, play 0 defense and are afraid of contact. wouldn't take him and a 2nd for a 7th.

I think you are generalizing too much. You saw some clips and you painted this picture in your head. Now because of your generalizations. You have a wrong Perception of Nylander.

Nylander has a corsi 53.6%. He is controlling play out there. His takeaway is 171 vs Giveaway in 119. Players that play 0 defense don't have high Corsi and takeaways are not so much than their give aways. He is one of the better Leafs at stripping picks.

Babcock is one of the better coach. I think we can all agree. He wouldn't play Nylander at times at center if he play 0 defence.

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

You spelled Hughes wrong

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Ridiculous. Truthfully, I wouldn't even trade Stecher in a package for Nylander.

You can call me ridiculous in kind if you like, but we need D and Stecher is a warrior. Nylander needs to grow up. He plays like a lazy coward.

 

[Diamonddog01]

Obviously the trade favours Vancouver however this Vancouver fan wants no part of Nylander or that contract.

As as someone who isn't particularly partial to Toronto, all I can say is thank god they didn't trade him for Pesce or they'd be in the 2nd round right now.

 

[Luck 6]

Stecher has just established himself as a legit top 4 RHD, I really don’t want to trade him as that is our primary need.

I’m on the fence.

 

[Motte and Bailey]

I wouldn’t even do Nylander for Virtanen in a 1 for 1 swap

 

[Canucks1096]

I wouldn’t even do Nylander for Virtanen in a 1 for 1 swap

Why?

 

[M2Beezy]

That's terrible. I wouldn't even give up the 2nd for Tanev anymore.

With that d Toronto has, they had Tanev then the Bruins would be golfing right now

O well

 

[Canucks1096]

I'd take a good 3rd liner and a #4 defenceman over a floater like Nylander anyday.

Nylander is an overpaid complimentary top 6 winger. If he's not scoring he's useless

You are generalizing, You do realize this year Nylander was first on the Leafs for Corsi at 56.8 % and also first in cf rel% at 5.2. His two 60 points season and had one of most takeaways on the team. Wins over 50% of his faceoffs as well. Not scoring he is useless is a bunch of non sense. Nylander is a good at controlling possession out there. Best way to play defence is to control the play.

This is hockey. It's not a figure skater competition. Virtanen sexy skating won't win you that many hockey games.

Canucks are one of the lowest scoring team in the last 4 years. Getting a 60 points players that is good at controlling possession will help a lot. Call the way you want complimentary or Primary or whatever. Nylander gets 60 points in a full season. 60 points don't grow on trees.

Some of the comments are getting more and more ridiculous. So many generalizations.

 

[Canucks1096]

Leafs would be smart to do it, Virtanen could get something done in the playoffs, and the team is good enough to ensure that they will get there.

What makes you think Virtanen can get something done in the playoffs? Virtanen has never played in an nhl playoffs game. In chl and ahl he wasn't great in the playoffs.

 

[PetterssonSimp]

Hainsey. Gardiner. (Bring in Rosen/Sandin/Borgman). Brown to Edmonton for a 3rd/4th. I still think Marleau goes. Bridge Kap/Johnsson.

You’re paying to move Marleau. No one wants that contract. You might swap him straight up for Kovy. But that’s 2 remaining years at the same money on the same style of contract.

 

[Scott Stevens]

Does anyone in the Canucks even want Nylander at that cap hit?

Thank you. I’m getting my butt kicked by people wanting to crap on me for being critical of Nylander. It’s a gersh dern cult of Dubas on our leafs section.

 

[ZEBROA]

Laine showed up in the playoffs tho.

Did you see Nylander ? Dude was so afraid of any contact.

Laine played wing on the second line, not center between Brown and old fart.

 

[ZEBROA]

He would be making more than Bo Horvat on the Canucks if we were to trade for Nylander . No chance I'd be able to justify that unless the cost was cheap to acquire him

As bad as he seems to a lot of "experts" in here Leafs will probably pay over half the salery to get rid of him.

 

[Motte and Bailey]

Why?

Because Nylander is a black hole of winning culture. The Canucks’ culture is at a critical and fragile stage where it’s developing and vulnerable to becoming a losing culture. Nylander moves the needle in the losing direction culturally and Virtanen doesn’t. It’s more about the team. Not saying Virtanen moves the needle in the right way either or saying he’s a star player or anything but I like him and would rather keep him over someone like Willy. Nylander would be good (though a bit pricey) on a veteran team that already has an established winning culture not on Vancouver though.

 

[ZEBROA]

damn Nylander is underrated

People belive in myths because they want to, not because its true.

 

[Ace of Hades]

I wouldnt trade Stecher straight up for Nylander. Kid is extremely underrated and is a hardworking young top 4 D.