Pre-Game Talk: Wild @ Habs | Line Blender Extravaganza | Thurs., Oct. 17th, 7 PM

[Runner77]

The Habs defense do "cough" up the puck a lot so makes some sense.

The only reason you beat me to this is that I couldn't find a gif with the actual word included and was too lazy to insert it myself. You won the internets.

 

[Runner77]

Question is, will the ownership group and Molson hold on to Bergevin for dear life.

Cuz once bargainbrain is gone... Who knows?

If he wasn't canned after that disastrous 2017-18 season, he never will.

 

[peate]

I tell you what... I'm more of tank leader than a middle of the pack team for several seasons. If you look at our team, now is the time to double down on the youth reinforcement core where we increase our probability of a strong core in a 10 year age gap growing together.

We got lucky that Caufield slipped to us at 15. 1 or 2 more top 5 picks is how we are going to get out of this middle ground where we have difficulty addressing our holes with trades and UFA's

The thing is, the upcoming draft is in Montreal, and the #1 pick might be the local saviour we've all be waiting for. St-Alexis-de-Lafrenière.

I can't think of a better time to go for it. Either tank or trade with probable teams, like Sam Pollock would do. But then again, BB's "Anything can happen" motto has doomed us to perennial mediocrity.

 

[The Real Timo]

Maybe if we stopped hiring buffoons to coach the symptoms would go away

I think it would be a long healing process... maybe diminished symptoms. Unfortunately I think the damage is permanent and irreversible.

 

[The Real Timo]

Is this who Bergevin is burning the phones for?

CH: un défenseur finlandais dans la mire?

 

[Runner77]

The thing is, the upcoming draft is in Montreal, and the #1 pick might be the local saviour we've all be waiting for. St-Alexis-de-Lafrenière.

I can't think of a better time to go for it. Either tank or trade with probable teams, like Sam Pollock would do. But then again, BB's "Anything can happen" motto has doomed us to perennial mediocrity.

If he really wanted to go for Lafrenière, he'd have to add at least one more first round pick from, as you suggested, a team who is likely to flounder.

Also, this team would have to rid itself of several assets in the process.

Then, with possibly holding 3 first round picks, parlay all of them in a pitch to whoever has won the lottery. It's a grand illusion type gamble but if it fails, you still end up with amazing talent in a good draft.

 

[sheed36]

The only reason you beat me to this is that I couldn't find a gif with the actual word included and was too lazy to insert it myself. You won the internets.

I was looking for a gif with the word included as well and eventually found one.

 

[Habs Halifax]

The thing is, the upcoming draft is in Montreal, and the #1 pick might be the local saviour we've all be waiting for. St-Alexis-de-Lafrenière.

I can't think of a better time to go for it. Either tank or trade with probable teams, like Sam Pollock would do. But then again, BB's "Anything can happen" motto has doomed us to perennial mediocrity.

Agreed but it's easier said than done. Winning a draft lottery takes a bit of luck and management needs to be willing to get a hair cut... Sell on Weber, Tatar, and Byron and rest players where ever we can. If anybody has any nagging injuries, put them on IR

 

[sheed36]

The only reason you beat me to this is that I couldn't find a gif with the actual word included and was too lazy to insert it myself. You won the internets.

You need to get a pic and put MB in place of either the guy blowing the horn or the other guy in the gif.

 

[Runner77]

Is this who Bergevin is burning the phones for?

CH: un défenseur finlandais dans la mire?

Another bin-like player?

Forecaster:

Defends very well, thanks to an active stick, sound positioning and the ability to deliver big hits. Also moves the puck efficiently, is mobile and can even join the rush. Is not a natural offensive defenseman, so he is not the best option to quarterback a power play (at any level). Must add more bulk and strength to maximize output.

He's a PMD at least but if he can't crack the Pens roster, how much upside does he really have?

 

[peate]

If he really wanted to go for Lafrenière, he'd have to add at least one more first round pick from, as you suggested, a team who is likely to flounder.

Also, this team would have to rid itself of several assets in the process.

Then, with possibly holding 3 first round picks, parlay all of them in a pitch to whoever has won the lottery. It's a grand illusion type gamble but if it fails, you still end up with amazing talent in a good draft.

I bet we could run this hockey team. I've been reading this board since early 2000's and the best ideas usually come from here. The Habs Usenet group was also good before HFBoards even existed.

Thenn you listen to guys like Gaston and Benoit, supposedly experts and shake your head in bewilderment.

 

[Habs Halifax]

If he wasn't canned after that disastrous 2017-18 season, he never will.

I think for two reasons...

1) Molson is scared to go down the interview process again cause he is not qualified. Who does he hire this time to do the interviewing? Savard is now 73
2) Money. Too much money to write off.

However, one of the two is not approaching a point where it's no longer a huge issue (money). Molson has saved a lot of money in the last few seasons and Bergevin has two years in term left and approaching lame duck status here soon. And I think we have a guy (Timmins) who Molson knows and can trust to work with.

If the Habs have a set back year where we fall in the standings, I do think Bergevin is fired. If Molson doesn't fire Bergevin, he needs to realize that our fan base will revolt and this is bad for business. We all know Molson is a business guy too

 

[Habs Halifax]

I bet we could run this hockey team. I've been reading this board since early 2000's and the best ideas usually come from here. The Habs Usenet group was also good before HFBoards even existed.

Thenn you listen to guys like Gaston and Benoit, supposedly experts and shake your head in bewilderment.

I also think there are some smart hockey guys on our boards as well!

 

[ahmedou]

Looking for LD? Why?

Chiarot isn't working out?? Alzner didn't work out??

Maybe you're targeting the wrong type of defenseman you clowns.

LD = Lol Dude

 

[peate]

Agreed but it's easier said than done. Winning a draft lottery takes a bit of luck and management needs to be willing to get a hair cut... Sell on Weber, Tatar, and Byron and rest players where ever we can. If anybody has any nagging injuries, put them on IR

No big losses for potentially tremendous gain. I see no problem there.

 

[Canadiens Ghost]

The type of game where the Habs play to the level of their opponents and lose 5-1.

 

[Habs Halifax]

No big losses for potentially tremendous gain. I see no problem there.

If anything, we are doing Weber a favor cause his window does not fit ours.

 

[ahmedou]

I bet we could run this hockey team. I've been reading this board since early 2000's and the best ideas usually come from here. The Habs Usenet group was also good before HFBoards even existed.

Thenn you listen to guys like Gaston and Benoit, supposedly experts and shake your head in bewilderment.

Hell 1909% right.

 

[angusyoung]

Is this who Bergevin is burning the phones for?

CH: un défenseur finlandais dans la mire?

Can't be, Habs have one like him in Laval called Leskenen.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

If he wasn't canned after that disastrous 2017-18 season, he never will.

I don't buy that argument

If it was only bergy and molson in a vaccum, but the dynamics are a bit more complicated than that.

 

[peate]

If anything, we are doing Weber a favor cause his window does not fit ours.

Nowadays he's more like a screen than a window.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Nowadays he's more like a screen than a window.

Weber has a kitchen window and our window is not constructed yet

This is how much time Weber has with his current window...

 

[Runner77]

I don't buy that argument

If it was only bergy and molson in a vaccum, but the dynamics are a bit more complicated than that.

The Molson group has consistently shown that they will exercise excruciating patience before making a significant move re their GM. I don’t see them changing their stance any time soon.

 

[habsfan891]

Like 2 years ago

Maybe he'll get it done by year 3 of the new 8 year plan. He'll try at least.

Havent you heard trying is the new succeeding these days

 

[habsfan891]

Friedman wrote in hia 31 thoughts that the Habs were looking at Riikola.

Cheap magic bean option.....exactly the type Bergevin bring in for the last 7 years without any ever working out.

He must be super cheap Ive honestly never heard of him