Who is the best playmaking winger

[Tommigun]

By who's definition? Are there any "primary" stats other than goals in your mind? Most people would consider assists of any kind a primary stat.

If I’m being unclear, breaking down assists into primary and secondary assists is an advanced statistic.

 

[Byron Bitz]

The guy who has more assists than him is better. Also the guy who has hit 70 points in his career is better.

No he’s not, watch them play, watch their assists.

 

[barrsdow]

MacKinnon is much better than Tavares. Marner is the best player on his line, Rantanen is not.

Before this season no one would argue that Marner is better than Tavares a #1 franchise center. So after 28 games, you're willing to call Marner better than Tavares a guy who has scored 80+ points 3 times in his career. It honestly just shows the absurd lengths you'll go to, to make a point.

 

[authentic]

Before this season no one would argue that Marner is better than Tavares a #1 franchise center. So after 28 games, you're willing to call Marner better than Tavares a guy who has scored 80+ points 3 times in his career. It honestly just shows the absurd lengths you'll go to, to make a point.

I've watched every single Leafs game this season. He has been the better player. He's 21 and Tavares is 28. And for the record before the season I posted on here predicting Marner to have more points than Tavares, but what I didn't expect was that he would also be the better defensive player.

 

[sessiroth]

lol how many of those Marner votes are by Leafs fans? He's having a great season but he is not yet above the likes of Kane, Kucherov, Giroux, Wheeler, Gaudreau.

And if we were just playing the recency bias game, it would be Rantanen.

Leads the League this year by a wide margin in primary assists. Which is what palymaking is afterall. U can keep underrating him tho

 

[barrsdow]

I've watched every single Leafs game this season. He has been the better player. He's 21 and Tavares is 28. And for the record before the season I posted on here predicting Marner to have more points than Tavares, but what I didn't expect was that he would also be the better defensive player.

We are not talking about the player whos having the best season, we're talking about the best player. No one would argue that Rantanen is a better player than Crosby right! Why? Because it would be crazy to forget about all his past achievements and take him for this 28g season alone.

 

[barrsdow]

Leads the League this year by a wide margin in primary assists. Which is what palymaking is afterall. U can keep underrating him tho

You're right! I keep telling these guys the question was, "which playmaker is having the best season?". They all think we're talking about the players whole body of work, bunch of goofs! Keep underrating the magician we'll see what happens.

 

[authentic]

We are not talking about the player whos having the best season, we're talking about the best player. No one would argue that Rantanen is a better player than Crosby right! Why? Because it would be crazy to forget about all his past achievements and take him for this 28g season alone.

I'm literally telling you Marner is and will be the better player. Rantanen is not better than Crosby. Look at Crosby's linemates and how much better he is defensively.

 

[sessiroth]

You're right! I keep telling these guys the question was, "which playmaker is having the best season?". They all think we're talking about the players whole body of work, bunch of goofs! Keep underrating the magician we'll see what happens.

This post has so much salt. Be careful your gonna raise your blood pressure. Marner is considerably younger then the majority of the players listed and only Kane was as effective at the same age. "Body of work" argument when comparing a player still on ELC and dominating to ten year vets is ridiculous. He's better now while younger and your trying to discredit him because he's young? Lmao. Gardiner > Chabot because body of work right?

EDIT: and I love how I posted stats and you chose to be sarcastic. Shows you have no legs to stand on. Keep being salty.

 

[jvcjdudu jcycyxjene]

No he’s not, watch them play, watch their assists.

Watch Rantanen play. He's the superior player in every facet.

 

[jvcjdudu jcycyxjene]

Things change...

They havent yet.

 

[Hugh Mungus]

Marner leading by 5, 2nd is Wheeler.

This season only is way too small sample size. If we take this season only then Rantanen is better than McDavid AINEC.

Man, why you gotta go and burst their bubble like that?

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

It’s just its name. It’s not a primary stat.

Apparently you missed the joke.

 

[Asiantuntija]

MacKinnon is much better than Tavares. Marner is the best player on his line, Rantanen is not.

Rantanen is at least equal with MacKinnon. Marner could have very little advantage at terms of pure playmaking, but Rantanen smokes him at every other area, being superior player.

 

[wasup]

Went with Wheeler then would be Gaudreau then Marner imo . all great play making wingers .

 

[1OApick]

Laine

 

[Haatley]

Leads the League this year by a wide margin in primary assists. Which is what palymaking is afterall. U can keep underrating him tho

Oh
Playmaking is just primary assists?
Really?
What a joke.

 

[teravaineSAROS]

Oh
Playmaking is just primary assists?
Really?
What a joke.

Primary ES assists is all that matters bro

 

[Haatley]

Primary ES assists is all that matters bro

But only this season.
Don't count last season cause Marner didn't play with a top 10 centre so that isn't fair to him.

 

[sessiroth]

Oh
Playmaking is just primary assists?
Really?
What a joke.

Is there a stat out there that's better to judge someone playmaking ability? Go ahead I'll wait. This should be amusing

 

[sessiroth]

But only this season.
Don't count last season cause Marner didn't play with a top 10 centre so that isn't fair to him.

Typical, if you watched even a single leafs game this year you'd know Marne is driving that line not Tavares. Lost a lot of credibility there.

Also other elite players play with elite players to put up points all the time but once a leaf does it it's used as a handicap. What horseshit

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

Primary assists have never been more relevant in Leaf land.

In the off-season, it was QoC. Now it’s primary assists. Good to know.

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

Is there a stat out there that's better to judge someone playmaking ability? Go ahead I'll wait. This should be amusing

Assists.

Marner has 122 since his debut. That’s very impressive.

It’s also 26 less than Blake Wheeler’s 148 in the same time frame.

Typical, if you watched even a single leafs game this year you'd know Marne is driving that line not Tavares. Lost a lot of credibility there.

Also other elite players play with elite players to put up points all the time but once a leaf does it it's used as a handicap. What horse****

Actually, the only argument that Leafs fans even have for Marner over Rantanen is that Rantanen’s center is leagues above Marner’s.

 

[Hischier and Hughes]

So the reigning MVP isnt a poll option?

Interesting

 

[sessiroth]

Assists.

Marner has 122 since his debut. That’s very impressive.

It’s also 26 less than Blake Wheeler’s 148 in the same time frame.



Actually, the only argument that Leafs fans even have for Marner over Rantanen is that Rantanen’s center isnt leagues above Marner’s.

Basic assists relies on another player to make a pass to another player to score. Hence why primary assists are more accurate. If I pass to you and you make an great play and another player scores I get an assist. Not a good depection of playmaking abilities.

Your also wrong on the second point, Marner has more primary assists is the argument to be made. Rantanen passing to landeskog passing to Mackinnion to score isnt playmaking.

I don't know how you can argue assist > primary assist when it comes to creating a play (playmaking)