Who is the best playmaking winger
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Tommigun
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Defense and passing. Skating is too close to call but maybe an edge to Marner there, stickhandling and shooting go to Gaudreau.
Does it bother you that he has the most passes that have directly lead to a goal? It's not like his overall assist totals are lacking.
Tommigun
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Not at all. It’s just a weird stat to bring up, which leads me to believe it’s very cherry picked in order to make an argument.
It's not really that weird though. Primary assists are better on average than secondaries. Not by too much but still.
Tommigun
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They may be but wow is it cherry picked. And an assist counts as one point no matter what, none of the primary stats are weighed.
Tkachuky
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Gaudreau’s passing is on par with anyone else in the league. I don’t see anyone being better than him at that. Open to hearing who and how they are better at passing than Gaudreau.
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Assists, otherwise known as points, are weird, advanced and cherry-picked stats?
Yeah....hate.
Primary assists are in this year.
Last year it was ES goals per 60 minutes because that favoured Matthews.
The goal posts will just keep moving.
CantLoseWithMatthews
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yeah it's crazy how Leafs fans aren't using ES goals/60 to pump Marner up as the best playmaker here. instead they want to use a stat that indicates how well a player directly sets a teammate up for a goal?Primary assists are in this year.
Last year it was ES goals per 60 minutes because that favoured Matthews.
The goal posts will just keep moving.
Tommigun
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Why not just use assists then? Oh because he leads the league in PRIMARY assists atm, that’s why.
Tommigun
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No... I said a primary assist counts as much as a secondary assist as a goal, because none of them are weighted in point totals. Hence it’s rare to bring up primary assists. Nothing wrong with it but it isn’t the strongest argument to make.
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Okay... your argument is weird... Marner is second in the league with 33 assists.
Tommigun
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Let’s be honest here. The only reason we are talking about primary assists is because it favors Marner.
He’s a great player but it’s still far too early to say he’s the best playmaking winger in the league. He’s had a good start for 20+ games, that’s all. There are players with far more pedigree in that list.
CantLoseWithMatthews
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what if people genuinely think that the best playmaker is the guy who sets his linemates up for goals directly?
Pick what ever cherry picked stat suits your purpose. It’s only a poll. If it makes you feel better go for it!
Question is, is Marner more fortunate than any other winger to have such an elite high scoring centre?
Same goes for Rantanen.
Gaudreau and Wheeler, not so much. Imagine if they were next to Matthews.
Same goes for Rantanen.
Gaudreau and Wheeler, not so much. Imagine if they were next to Matthews.
Rants Mulliniks
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There's a fair number of secondary assists that shouldn't actually be counted as assists. Much less so with primaries.
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why don't you complain some more about why Leafs fans aren't using goals herePick what ever cherry picked stat suits your purpose. It’s only a poll. If it makes you feel better go for it!
Rants Mulliniks
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Probably but he's got over a point per game for over 100 games now and Tavares has only been around for a quarter of that.
