Where in the world is Filip Zadina?

[bottomofthefoodchain]

Yeah but have you seen the points he’s gotten? A lot of them are rebound goals or not very pretty. He doesn’t really deserve any of them.

Only highlight reel goals count

 

[mphmiles]

The obsession with Zadina is insane. So many stat watchers.

It's basically prospect/draft rubber-banding. Tons of fans said Ottawa was idiotic for taking Tkachuk over him, (And to a lesser extent, Hayton/Arizona) and it was probably the biggest talking point of the draft, but since Tkachuk has looked excellent, the microscope is fully on Zadina now.

 

[Goalie guy]

Bull****.

I would suggest go and read !
If there is a chance to sign Stone, then sign him. He's a righty, still young kid and style of play fits team identity. Panarin would great, but idon't believe he wants come here. I predict he goes to Florida.

Zadina-Larkin-Stone
Athanasiou-Nielsen-Mantha
Bertuzzi-Rasmussen-Svechnikov/1st round pick 2019
Abdelkader-Glendening-Helm
De La Rose, Ehn

Cholowski-Green
DeKeyser-Hronek
Ericsson-Daley
Jensen

Howard
Bernier


And my response was
What in the name of god makes you think Zedina is any where close to playing on the first line the NHL? He will be lucky to get full time 1st line in the A next year.

But you are right it was bullshit! And that is just one of them that thinks/thought he was playing in the NHL this year.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

I remember when PLD was a bust after his draft +1 season and dismal WJC.

I see we haven't learned.

 

[LarKing]

I would suggest go and read !
If there is a chance to sign Stone, then sign him. He's a righty, still young kid and style of play fits team identity. Panarin would great, but idon't believe he wants come here. I predict he goes to Florida.

Zadina-Larkin-Stone
Athanasiou-Nielsen-Mantha
Bertuzzi-Rasmussen-Svechnikov/1st round pick 2019
Abdelkader-Glendening-Helm
De La Rose, Ehn

Cholowski-Green
DeKeyser-Hronek
Ericsson-Daley
Jensen

Howard
Bernier


And my response was
What in the name of god makes you think Zedina is any where close to playing on the first line the NHL? He will be lucky to get full time 1st line in the A next year.

But you are right it was bull****! And that is just one of them that thinks/thought he was playing in the NHL this year.

My “bullshit” response to you was in response to you saying 9 out of 10 wings fans on the page thought he would be on the wings. I doubt there’s even 9 wings fans on the site who thought that. The general consensus was a few years in the AHL.

 

[ManwithNoIdentity]

A) Played 28 games

B) 18 years old


Such an overreaction

 

[Braun]

My “bull****” response to you was in response to you saying 9 out of 10 wings fans on the page thought he would be on the wings. I doubt there’s even 9 wings fans on the site who thought that. The general consensus was a few years in the AHL.

Which is funny when you think that all the ''pro'' commentators were saying Dahlin, Svechnikov and Zadina were the most NHL ready. Got to take everything with a grain of salt.

 

[24 others]

Yeah but have you seen the points he’s gotten? A lot of them are rebound goals or not very pretty. He doesn’t really deserve any of them.

I understand you. It's always sad to see a player expelled from the league for scoring ugly goals. More so an 18 year old kid.

 

[gretskidoo]

He lives in the head of a few Habs fans. They won't let him out to play hockey.

 

[LarKing]

He lives in the head of a few Habs fans. They won't let him out to play hockey.

Yeah if you really want to see which ones, check out who started posting in his prospect thread right after the WJC.

 

[Goalie guy]

My “bull****” response to you was in response to you saying 9 out of 10 wings fans on the page thought he would be on the wings. I doubt there’s even 9 wings fans on the site who thought that. The general consensus was a few years in the AHL.

You don't even want to go back and read the shit I took saying that in his draft thread then. was called all sorts of good stuff for saying he would be in the A for at least a year.

 

[Beville]

And people were saying Zadina over Tkachuk.

 

[Go Wings]

I remember when PLD was a bust after his draft +1 season and dismal WJC.

I see we haven't learned.

Those people never learn to give these kids time to develop.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Those people never learn to give these kids time to develop.

My favorite hot take in this thread is his goals were lucky since they were rebounds. I mean that's one of Zadinas strengths. He's never been a flashy goal scorer (he has his moments) but the dudes bread and butter is either finding soft spaces to get his shot off or knowing where the puck will be going to pounce in for a rebound goal or a goal in a scrum.

I didn't want Zadina a whole lot as a Habs fan because we needed a C and also because if I'm picking a winger top 5 he has to be a game breaker in multiple facets. A guy who controls the play from the wing. But that doesn't take away from the fact that his hockey sense and wherewithal to find places to score goals is top notch and he's gonna be a consistent 30+ guy in the league.

 

[izlez]

I believe he's mocking the genius in the Zadina thread that spent several pages trying to explain how Zadina's production was irrelevant because he scored points off lucky rebounds/deflections and **** ups by the opposing team.

As if every player doesn't get these kind of points...

That's MEE!


And that's opposed to his supporters where their only argument is "17 in 28 isn't so bad".
Sorry that doing anything on top of pure stat watching is frowned upon

 

[izlez]

My favorite hot take in this thread is his goals were lucky since they were rebounds. I mean that's one of Zadinas strengths. He's never been a flashy goal scorer (he has his moments) but the dudes bread and butter is either finding soft spaces to get his shot off or knowing where the puck will be going to pounce in for a rebound goal or a goal in a scrum.

For the record, those "hot takes" in this thread are sarcastically mocking my hot takes from his prospect thread.

When everyone's argument is "17 in 28 isn't so bad"?
I pointed out that he MISSED the wide open net on his rebound but got a lucky bounce.
Or that his teammates are going end to end with the puck, and he's picking up an assist.

He's advertised as a "skilled" player, and he's not showing that ability. If he becomes a net front guy that gets deflections and rebounds, great, but I don't think anyone is projecting that either

 

[Claypool]

Poor Hans fans

 

[ElysiumAB]

while playing for Czech, averaged just 2 assists in the whole tourney.

This doesn't make any sense.

 

[tsujimoto74]

And if he was playing in the Q right now he would be the best player in the CHL and no one would be saying anything. Instead hes having a solid AHL rookie season. WJC is irrelevant to me. That whole Czech team was poorly coached and no one scored on that team. Plus Zadina was just returning from injury

Relax, hes progressing fine

Same thing happened with Alex Nylander when he was in the AHL as a teenager. Obviously a player is a bust if they can't produce the same gaudy stats as their peers while playing against far superior competition.

 

[Conor Edwards]

I love the level of wack on this thread.

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

Well you can't pick up, you kind of have to keep to your plan.
What was Detroit's plan entering the draft? Defensemen.

They're mocking you. Referring to concern that players picked ahead of Zadina are outperforming him is meaningless. That would be expected.

 

[Kupo]

Yeah but have you seen the points he’s gotten? A lot of them are rebound goals or not very pretty. He doesn’t really deserve any of them.

I'll take rebound goals, or "not pretty goals" over no goals. He's on pace for a 50 point rookie season which is exceptional considering he's just a 19 year old rookie.

OP, this is a really awful thread.

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

17 points in 28 games is pretty good production for an 18 year old. What are you smoking

I think he's 19

 

[Mac2Rants]

HES 19!! ppl also, OP he was not ppg in ahl. his#s aint bad but -13 is a little telling atm.

 

[Mister Ed]

For some reference, here is the some of the similar players drafted around where Zadina was drafted and how they did in their D+1 year. They turned out pretty alright.

Name	Draft position	Points in D+1 (AHL or equivalent)	Points in D+1 (NHL)
Filip Zadina	6th 2018	17 in 28 games
Mika Zibanejad	6th 2011	11 in 23 games	20 in 42 games
Filip Forsberg	11th 2012	33 in 38 games	1 in 5 games
Sean Monahan	6th 2013	34 in 75 games (NHL)
William Nylander	8th 2014	52 in 58 games
Pavel Zacha	6th 2015	3 in 3 games	2 in 1 game

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