What's the major issue limiting Puljujärvi?

[Forgot About Drai]

He needs to learn to use his elite physical tools at a NHL level. All the tools are there, but he hasnt learned to use them in a highly intelligent way. YET.

Time in the AHL will be very important for JP. He needs development. He has all the tools, just needs to put it together. Needs good coaching and lots of ice time in the minors imo.

 

[McShogun99]

Put him on the 4th line with grinders for 8 minutes a game. If he can't score at a rate of 0.5 points per game trade him for a 3rd round pick.

The Yakupov development plan?

 

[RipsADrive]

Doubt this thread exists if he'd played in the CHL all year. He just turned 19. Give him a chance.

He had a very important development year where he had to make a huge adjustment to his game and lifestyle.

 

[TheLeastOfTheBunch]

Yeayea justifications like that can be made for anyone ever.

Sure, but it's perfectly suitable to supplement Nylander's numbers with added context considering how rare it is to see a draft+1 player going from Euro hockey to NA hockey in the middle of a season. I mean, most HF users who watched the games made a note of it as well, especially highlighted in this thread when he came over to play in the AHL for the first time; http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1824729

 

[Jumptheshark]

Let him develop properly. They have a talented roster and he's not forced to be a go to guy, ala Hall, RNH, Yakupov. He's only 19. Maybe it will be an issue when he's 23, but that's years away.

some just want to panic

 

[DownGoesMcDavid]

I trust jarmo more than I trust posters here saying he is fine..same.posters who are just stat watching.

 

[KlefDown]

Every scouting report ever - Puljujarvi has great hockey IQ
Leafs fans - He lacks hockey IQ

 

[victor]

Doubt this thread exists if he'd played in the CHL all year. He just turned 19. Give him a chance.

He had a very important development year where he had to make a huge adjustment to his game and lifestyle.

This, and remember that Chiarelli apparently made a deal with his agent to keep him on the roster for more than 40 games, for both salary and burning an RFA year reasons. He ended up playing 28 games, selectively by McLellan. He then played 39 games with the Condors in the AHL, and played well according to his coach.

Personally, I'd like for him to start in the AHL, as Draisaitl did in 2015-16. Draisaitl had 2 points in 6 games, and was called up to the big club and got 51 in 72. Some players need time, and it's better to give them the experience at the AHL level before earning it at the NHL level.

 

[Davo Ikinzom]

Ridiculous. Now he has a "major issue" which is limiting him, based on what? Because he wasn't gifted a spot on the Oilers roster this year?

 

[BL92]

I trust jarmo more than I trust posters here saying he is fine..same.posters who are just stat watching.

Columbus needed a C more than a winger and Jarmo missed out on Aho...

 

[lawrence]

don't think anything is holding him back, infact I think CBJ is going to regret not drafting this kid.

give him another year, and he will be NHL ready.

 

[Del Preston]

I trust jarmo more than I trust posters here saying he is fine..same.posters who are just stat watching.

You're a Canucks fan who has done nothing but crap on the Oilers since you signed up here. I think I'll trust myself and others who actually watched JP extensively over the past year.

 

[DownGoesMcDavid]

You're a Canucks fan who has done nothing but crap on the Oilers since you signed up here. I think I'll trust myself and others who actually watched JP extensively over the past year.

Past year??

Jarmo probably has at least 8 yrs of hard scouting on JP.

I'm not putting my money on myself as I would just be basing my opinion on stats and about 15 games I saw him play in the pros. But I'm putting my stick on Jarmo who is not a believer at all with JP..

Like I said, IQ ,positioning , fundamentals and motor are all at about an echl/ahl level right now.

Physical tools such as skating and frame are definitely nhl level tho.

 

[Del Preston]

Past year??

Jarmo probably has at least 8 yrs of hard scouting on JP.

I'm not putting my money on myself as I would just be basing my opinion on stats and about 15 games I saw him play in the pros. But I'm putting my stick on Jarmo who is not a believer at all with JP..

Like I said, IQ ,positioning , fundamentals and motor are all at about an echl/ahl level right now.

Physical tools such as skating and frame are definitely nhl level tho.

Yes, the past year.

You don't know why Columbus took Dubois but it's already been pointed out that they went with a centre. What's your excuse for Jarmo passing on Aho?

The bold is flat out bs. It's like you've never actually watched the player or read a scouting report on him. No surprise at all that you would overreact about the deficiences in a 19-year-old's game because of who he happens to play for.

 

[Bank Shot]

Past year??

Jarmo probably has at least 8 yrs of hard scouting on JP..

Yeah if Jarmo was in Finland 8 years ago watching ten year olds play.

But the guy has been involved in the big leagues. And since 2013 has been GM of the Blue jackets.

He wouldn't have seen Finnish prospects play live much more often than any other GM during this time.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Every scouting report ever - Puljujarvi has great hockey IQ
Leafs fans - He lacks hockey IQ

Then it can't be every scouting report ever. Leaf fans opinions count too

 

[Passchendaele]

He's not quite a bust yet, but his ceiling is clearly not as high at Laine's..

80+ pts for him is highly unlikely.

 

[Bank Shot]

He's not quite a bust yet, but his ceiling is clearly not as high at Laine's..

80+ pts for him is highly unlikely.

Yeah, that's also highly unlikely for 99% Of NHLers.

How many guys hit 80 this year?. 5?

 

[DownGoesMcDavid]

Yeah, that's also highly unlikely for 99% Of NHLers.

How many guys hit 80 this year?. 5?

Agreed. I think JP will be a 15 G and 30 A player. Not bad NHLer but nowhere near his potential that warranted a top 4 draftee.

 

[KlefDown]

Sad how people write players off so early. He hasn't even had a 'real' shot at the NHL yet and his ceiling is 15g-30a?!?!?

 

[Sniper99]

Now, I love Puljujärvi and his chirpy attitude and I really want him to live up to the hype and succeed. I think he can still do that, he is only 19 after all.

However, he has seemed to struggle for most of this season. Granted, it's very rare for a person to be NHL ready at his age, especially if they're from outside North America and don't speak English fluently, which is the case with Puljujärvi. He did better in the AHL but didn't really dominate, as some expected. This could be because of poor quality teammates however. He has also been quite invisible in the WC this year, he doesn't really make any bad plays but he simply seems to vanish whenever he is on ice. Handles the puck like a live grenade, as one poster pointed out.

What do you think is the major problem for Puljujärvi? Do you think he'll become the player he was projected to be?

At this point I still think it's purely mental, his season has been very hectic and obviously it draining when you have to adapt to a new culture and language. Luckily his English has seemed to improve, it's still quite crude but at least he can get the point across. I think he'll be better prepared when next season.

A sample of his current English skills: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmDcsSGT6VM

Nothing is wrong wit him, he hasn't even played a full season and we're questioning him already. Yikes.

 

[KlefDown]

Then it can't be every scouting report ever. Leaf fans opinions count too

I'm not sure you know what a scouting report is...

 

[bogostick]

I think confidence goes a long way for a player such as JP. He'll come back next year ready to contribute to the nhl or light up the ahl Imo. He was touted similarily to Laine a couple years ago, even ahead of him before their draft year. I truly think he just needs time to develop and grow into the player he will become.

 

[cotopaxi]

I think it's way too early for this thread.

 

[teravaineSAROS]

Sure, but it's perfectly suitable to supplement Nylander's numbers with added context considering how rare it is to see a draft+1 player going from Euro hockey to NA hockey in the middle of a season. I mean, most HF users who watched the games made a note of it as well, especially highlighted in this thread when he came over to play in the AHL for the first time; http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1824729

That's fair, I mean he obviously turned out great.

I hope Pulju will take a similiar path.