Speculation: What Trade Should Have Been Made, and Wasn't?
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You'd think one or two GM's must have made an offer that wasn't QUITE their best and are kicking themselves.
For #1 fair enough. For #2, Milan doesn't make Hall expendable, Hall is on another level. For #3, I'd argue keeping Hall and losing Nuge while getting Brodin instead of Larsson does make EDM better.
You lose a center you don't need rather than a winger you could easily still use, and you get Brodin instead of Larsson which IMO is basically a wash. IMO that would be a much smarter move.
I don't know of any offers, but I find it hard to believe a similar player to Larsson couldn't have been found for RNH rather than having to overpay for him using Hall.
It boils down to this, Hall is the best winger on EDM, RNH is the 3rd best center, or if you want to argue 2nd best.. at best. They could've found a similar D for RNH rather than trading Hall for him.
Hall + Brodin > RNH + Larsson IMO. Like you said though, I'm not sure that offer was even available, but I wouldn't be shocked if it was.
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I think this gif accurately describes Kevin Lowe's strategy for the Comrie situation.
I agree it's terrible, I stated that if the rumours were true that there were willing to trade 6 and Hamilton for 3 and Milano. It's essentially the same trade once jp fell
If they trade Dumba for an expansion protected asset then they don't lose another player in the expansion draft.
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Edmonton fans are just incredible. A couple of years of wanting to trade for a defenseman, and now when they got one of the best of the young ones in the league, it's bad and everything sucks. Seriously?
If you think that ther was a similar defenseman available for RNH, please name that guy. Pretty sure you won't be able to do that.
If you think that ther was a similar defenseman available for RNH, please name that guy. Pretty sure you won't be able to do that.
Recently? I wish Lou could have found a taker for PAP/Grabner....in the past....Kaberle for Carter, didn't happen because a fax machine malfunctioned.
PAP was injured right before the trade deadline, and the trade that was on the table fizzled.
Unless you think Toronto should have dealt PAP+TOR 2nd 2018 for a team's 2nd 2017 or something, just for the sake of moving him for essentially nothing...
Same with Grabner. There just wasn't interest. The fact that Toronto signed as many FAs as they did and dealt as many as they did manage to deal, it's actually an alarmingly successful evaluation of FA talent and signing them to good deals...
Fourier
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Most of the people who are highly critical of this deal are not Oiler fans. Many Oiler fans may not have been happy with the full return but do recognize that on whole there was justification for the trade. Right now the Oilers are a much more balanced team than they were prior to the draft.
I don't see how years of wanting to trade for a defenseman means it's a good idea to trade your best winger for one that isn't on par with him. I'd understand trading your 3rd best C for one, but I feel trading Hall for one is shortsighted and a panic move.
Had they gotten a premiere d-man in the league for their premiere winger I wouldn't be baffled.
His point stands: if you can find a D who was better or equal to Larsson that actually was available for RNH- not rumored, but actually on the table- then you'd have the right to complain.
Based on what is public knowledge, this was the best deal ANYONE put forth- even for Hall.
Roof Daddy
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Those are definitely not the facts. His ELC had expired and he was holding out at the time of the trade. There was no signing bonus based on number of years. There was a massive bonus structure to his ELC before there was a cap on rookie bonuses or structure to achievements to unlock bonuses.
This guy has it bang on:
The crazy thing is, had we pulled the trigger on that deal, it was only a few years later that we're trading Pronger to the Ducks and the rumour was Lowe inquired about Getzlaf (just completed his rookie season at the time). Burke supposedly said if it's Getzlaf, it's straight up. At the time, trading one of the top 3 D in the game - signed for 4 more years @ 6.25 per - for one high end rookie/sophomore would have been ridiculed. In hindsight we could have had Perry and Getzlaf.
Hally BlackWood
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Some of this think Spooner is being shopped and may not be here come August/training camp.
Shattenkirk (autocorrected to 'heartbroken'...irony?LOL) for Spooner. Get it done.
Jumptheshark
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Hamhuis & Vrbata for anything
I refer you to my earlier thread--Dallas ended up getting Hamuis for nothing
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thedoughboy
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I'd probably say the Jets not doing trouba for the 4th overall.
Don't get me wrong, the jets already have a huge amount of winger depth, but getting the wonder finns together on the same team would have been huge.
They also would have been able to pursue someone like yandle in FA to actually have some depth on LD instead of waiting it out in contract talks with Trouba like they are.
Don't get me wrong, the jets already have a huge amount of winger depth, but getting the wonder finns together on the same team would have been huge.
They also would have been able to pursue someone like yandle in FA to actually have some depth on LD instead of waiting it out in contract talks with Trouba like they are.
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