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OT: Weather
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Frank the Tank
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No matter how many times the "Weather" thread is locked, warnings given, and reopened, HFOil always steers back into the climate debate (and related areas).
I mean, when someone posts a David f***ing Staples article to argue against climate change, what do you expect.
Frank the Tank
The Godfather
I agree. Re-reading I should have clarified why I responded to your post before making that statement.
The Onion title for Staples article would read, "Shocking: Province with minimal alterative energy infrastructure relies on fossil fuels for energy during cold snap!"
Jimmi McJenkins
Sometimes miracles
It's super annoying all that Mercer money he's getting. More people need to call him out on that.
Jimmi McJenkins
Sometimes miracles
You surviving ok? It's ****ing terrifying and I'm pretty worried this is our future.Bit OT to the OT thread, but here in Western Sydney we are getting a lovely torrential downpour
The drought is far from over, the fire season is going to continue, but what a ****ing relief
Drivesaitl
Finding Hyman
Wasn't the point at all and unless you're in the middle of this 10 day deep freeze dipping into -40 or worse every night you don't really know how much this is a hot topic in Edmonton, excuse pun. There was nothing irregular about posting up all the news that is related to this deep freeze, and which is front page news here every day.
The intent was not to argue climate change, it was merely pointing out how NECESSARILY dependant we are on fossil fuels to even survive here. I don't like Staples as a writer, he's merely a source, the one citing that 94.5% of the energy used on one day during this cold snap was Fossil fuel. The other link being that Alberta was maxed out and was on level 2 emergency and verging on 3 in our power supply.
Several people thanked me for the post, it was not political, it was not climate science, it was commentary and it was important news. It was also extremely relevant in a weather thread, in Edmonton, to mention to readers that the region was potentially in a energy blackout situation and that several conservation advisories and alerts had been issued. Of course its good to note that to people.
But anyway, your bolded statement is interesting, is completely false, and is hypocritical in light of you advising others not to make this verge into another controversial area. Alberta is becoming a leader in Solar and Wind energy. Not that you would apparently know. But the bolded is entirely unnecessary comment all things considered and you shouldn't be making it.
Besides which you missed the entire point. Wind energy isn't so effective when a stalled weather system is planted in the Prairies and the wind isn't significant enough to generate and or the turbines are f***ing frozen in place. Solar energy, you might imagine, does not yield a bumper crop of energy at this latitude in January due to the inclination of the sun here at this time of year and the very short days. So that it wouldn't matter how much solar or wind energy sources we have here, they do not generate much here, during peak demand.
This was all clear in the articles cited.
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Bit OT to the OT thread, but here in Western Sydney we are getting a lovely torrential downpour
The drought is far from over, the fire season is going to continue, but what a ****ing relief
Best wishes to our friends down under.
Drivesaitl
Finding Hyman
Simpler point. Can't be made any more succinctly. Humans can't survive here without fossil fuels at this latitude and at these temps. This 10 day period would've been enough to have achieved massive calamity without fossil fuels. The obvious point being made is that this country, this province, this City, is naturally fossil fuel dependent due to the latitude and temp extremes that occur here.
Interesting that there was one comment that it was "Sheer stupidity" to consider that humans require copious use of fossil fuels just to survive at this latitude, and in these temp extremes. That comment adds nothing to the discussion (neither do a few others responses) and is uncalled for.
So unless people want to talk about actual viable alternatives that would work here as energy supply that could be effective when most needed. In the meantime calling others dumb is probably unhelpful.
This is a weather thread and Edmonton has been under a 10 day weather emergency. If this isn't relevant to Edmonton nothing is..
Interesting that there was one comment that it was "Sheer stupidity" to consider that humans require copious use of fossil fuels just to survive at this latitude, and in these temp extremes. That comment adds nothing to the discussion (neither do a few others responses) and is uncalled for.
So unless people want to talk about actual viable alternatives that would work here as energy supply that could be effective when most needed. In the meantime calling others dumb is probably unhelpful.
This is a weather thread and Edmonton has been under a 10 day weather emergency. If this isn't relevant to Edmonton nothing is..
BlackDogg
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And to top it off, my electric start generator didn't work last time there was a power outage.
Mcnofool6110
Re-defining Rock Bottom since '07
Was pretty apocalyptic come December. Since being back in Jan, mornings have been very smoky but otherwise things have calmed down a tad! The fire season is only well and truly starting (Jan and Feb are summer here because upside down), I imagine I'll see the effect come work next week (I work in the suburb that had the +49 day). Very glad to see a downpour. Hope yall keeping warm up top at home.
ThePhoenixx
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Bit OT to the OT thread, but here in Western Sydney we are getting a lovely torrential downpour
The drought is far from over, the fire season is going to continue, but what a ****ing relief
I'd be pretty pissed at the few dozen people who were arrested for making things worse by starting fires.
Jimmi McJenkins
Sometimes miracles
+49? Geezus, is the ash fault melting your shoes at that point? Stay safe either way.
Mcnofool6110
Re-defining Rock Bottom since '07
Slave Lake was burnt to rubble because of arson. It boggles the mind at the depth of idiocy people can have.
Heat stroke and burns. Emergency department is going to be full, it'll be a fun year of work. Will try my best!
guymez
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Actually its almost 200 people that have been charged in Australia so far....
Australia's bush fires: Nearly 200 people charged with fire offences
https://www.police.nsw.gov.au/news/...vdi5hdSUyRm1lZGlhJTJGODIyNjQuaHRtbCZhbGw9MQ==
Interesting how much the political correctness obsessed media in NA are still blaming climate change,
Feed the fear.
ThePhoenixx
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I dug through the facts before hand.
"Out of those, 24 people have been charged over alleged deliberately-lit bushfires."
So, yeah. Indoctrination paves the way to bad intentions.
tardigrade81
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It was -44 in Regina and my car didn’t start today. Who wants to move with me?
guymez
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Check out the police link I added....
Wording aside...the point being...its very ugly....
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ThePhoenixx
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So it's getting worse.
I am interested as to where these people originate from. Did some fly into the country for the purpose of starting fires? Are Socialists sitting around in rooms, firing themselves up to then rush out to burn their country to the ground? Are some paid eco-terrorists? Will some end up being Epsteined?
These are things curious minds want to know.
nexttothemoon
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Off to Texas where its warmer and safe... Alberta South.
guymez
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Some reports are suggesting that among the people arrested are environmental activists (not from Australia). Their apparent intent...to incite demonstrations to expedite Govt legislation against Climate Change.
Apparently they are paid activists supported by NGO's.
When you start questioning the mainstream narrative and start digging its amazing what you uncover.
ThePhoenixx
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An activist does not start fires. Once you have stepped over that line you have become a terrorist.
nexttothemoon
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