Friedman: Voynov eligible to return Game 42 in 2019/20

[dingbathero]

You don’t know the whole story so stop acting like you do.

I know who he cheers for here..... 'whole story' I know enough of the story to what's right.... He wasn't, that much is clear. But ra-ra away.

 

[Hobnobs]

No when you are so drunk tho it effects your judgement. Most people do not go out expecting to get drunk and drive . Once drunk they make bad decisions. Hitting another person man woman or child because you are drunk can be put into a bad decision.
I mention it once before and will not go into details but a guy is charge in Halifax for having sex with a drunk lady . They judge threw it out because she may have consented . She can’t remember . It was appealed the higher court ruled a drunk person can not consent to anything . So if she is not responsible for her actions because she is drunk how can someone that breaks the law be anymore responsible . Can’t have it both ways . Myself I have never drank in my life and even with my pain I have bottles and bottles of very strong pain medications I don’t take . So I am not going to try and convince anyone that being drunk is an valid excuse. I just posted about the court case as it’s a look from another angle

When did I argue that you can't consent when drunk? Thats one hell of a strawman you built their to excuse people beating their wife, buddy.

 

[1FreakZilla3]

Everyone deserves a second chance, personally i hope he ends up on my leafs with a low salary and bonus laden contract. hopefully he has gotten his life together and can get back to playing hockey in the best league.

 

[DFAC]

No team is going to want to deal with the PR nightmare this will bring and rightfully so.

I can't imagine his teammates would be happy if a team signed him too.

 

[Macman]

Everyone deserves a second chance, personally i hope he ends up on my leafs with a low salary and bonus laden contract. hopefully he has gotten his life together and can get back to playing hockey in the best league.

There's just no way a progressive-thinking Kyle Dubas, a guy who has two female coaches and a female scout on staff, would ever sign him.

 

[TheDoldrums]

Everyone deserves a second chance, personally i hope he ends up on my leafs with a low salary and bonus laden contract. hopefully he has gotten his life together and can get back to playing hockey in the best league.

0% chance and I'm glad for that.

The Leafs jersey has "Honour. Pride. Courage" on the collar. He's not worthy of wearing it.

 

[Avaholic29]

0% chance and I'm glad for that.

The Leafs jersey has "Honour. Pride. Courage" on the collar. He's not worthy of wearing it.

Kadri begs to differ with his crosschecks to the face

 

[YP44]

0% chance and I'm glad for that.

The Leafs jersey has "Honour. Pride. Courage" on the collar. He's not worthy of wearing it.

Gilmour was all but cleared but didn't the leafs trade for him while the allegations against him were still active?

 

[Field of Dreams]

He's served his punishment, he's square with the house.

 

[Starat327]

Kadri begs to differ with his crosschecks to the face

Takes a lot of courage to jump someone from behind with a dirty hit.

 

[TheDoldrums]

Kadri begs to differ with his crosschecks to the face

So now we're comparing a crosscheck during a game to the brutal beating of a woman?

That's a yikes from me dawg.

 

[TheDoldrums]

Gilmour was all but cleared but didn't the leafs trade for him while the allegations against him were still active?

Well the Leafs also had people working in the building that abused children. I don't know enough about the Gilmour situation, but they have certainly had dark periods under old ownership and management.

The point is to be different now.

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

Everyone deserves a second chance, personally i hope he ends up on my leafs with a low salary and bonus laden contract. hopefully he has gotten his life together and can get back to playing hockey in the best league.

and that's why you are a joke organisation and no one takes you seriously outside of Toronto. Anyway, the Leafs never had a problem taking horrible individuals, what a joke.

Go ahead and take Voynov, let's see how the league and fans will see Toronto after that.

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

Everyone deserves a second chance

not when you purposely take your wife head and put it in the TV.

Like, the hell ? how is this deserving a second f***ing chance, bud ?

 

[Avaholic29]

So now we're comparing a crosscheck during a game to the brutal beating of a woman?

That's a yikes from me dawg.

No, I don't think anywhere in my post do I state that I'm making comparisons. I'm quite literally replying to someone saying everyone who wears a leafs sweater has honor blah blah blah. Nonsense statement, dawg. Im a firm believer in people make mistakes and he's paid for it, so easy for people to act like they've never done something bad on the internet lol.

 

[TheDoldrums]

Im a firm believer in people make mistakes and he's paid for it, so easy for people to act like they've never done something bad on the internet lol.

Yes it is easy for me to act like I'm better than the guy who threw his wife into a TV. Feel pretty comfortable on the high horse in that regard. And I'm glad my team won't sign him.

 

[JKG33]

I'd absolutely take him on the Leafs. As a fan I'd be very disappointed if my favorite teams management didn't do everything they could to win a cup, instead pandering to the bleeding hearts

 

[Avaholic29]

Yes it is easy for me to act like I'm better than the guy who threw his wife into a TV. Feel pretty comfortable on the high horse in that regard. And I'm glad my team won't sign him.

But someone will. And you'll have to accept it lol. Heatley returned to hockey after being the cause of another players death, Varlamov came back, there's athletes everywhere that make mistakes and make returns better people. Shit happens, welcome to planet earth bud. Not excusing it but I'm not going to spend years despising a player that's served his due time and taken plenty of heat for his piss poor decision making.

 

[Caser]

Looks like Voynov's agent is now Dan Milstein.

 

[Jayevs]

He’ll have to clear waivers won’t he?

 

[Dennis Reynolds]

National Hockey League forward Dany Heatley on Friday pleaded guilty to four of six charges in the vehicular homicide case against him and was sentenced to three years probation.

Craig MacTavish played in the NHL for the Boston Bruins and now enjoys a post-playing career as a hockey coach. But between playing and coaching, he was involved in another crime involving a motor vehicle. In 1984, he was convicted of vehicular homicide and ended up having to serve a year in prison for doing so. Once again, another tragic case of a professional hockey player making a reckless decision to get behind the wheel while under the influence of drugs or alcohol.

Joe Corvo -> When he was out drinking with some teammates, he grabbed the buttocks of an unsuspecting woman, who reacted angrily (as one might expect), and Corvo was kicked out of the bar.
It could have ended there, and we’d likely never hear of it. Corvo, however, decided to return to the bar, where he struck the woman, and then gave her a kick in the ribs for good measure. Then he ran out of the bar. This was 2002. He played in the NHL from 2002-14 after... Don't recall the endless degree of outrage there.

Ed Belfour - The Stars goalie was involved in a March 2000 incident at a Dallas hotel where security was called after his female companion became frightened by Belfour's drunken belligerence. He grappled with a guard, kicked two police officers, and was blasted with pepper spray. He later offered the cops a billion dollars to not take him to jail. No dice. He ended up pleading guilty, apologizing, and being given two years probation and $3,000 fine.

Brett Sutter - The Calgary Flames forward and son of the team's then-GM Darryl Sutter, was accused in November 2010 of being extremely drunk when he punched a cab driver in the face outside a Scottsdale, Ariz. bar from which he'd been tossed for disorderly behavior. Brett, then 23, was brought down by bouncers and faced a misdemeanor charge. He pleaded guilty and was fined $323.60.

There are multiple other players, who were charged with domestic battery, but charges were dropped, from "insufficient evidence" which typically means, the spouse/gf wouldn't testify... Palffy, Varmalov,... Patrick Kane's assault on a Cabbie...

As far as counselling.... ---> A doctor told the court Voynov had completed 28 domestic violence counseling sessions....

This. Forget all your other examples. If Dany Heatley can kill his teammate and have a nice, long, lucrative career, Voynov should be welcomed back.

Was he right? Of course not. No one could argue otherwise. But you don't know his personal life. You don't know if/how he's changed, you aren't him and you aren't her.

 

[Rogue Leader]

The good thing is that they are happily married and have a daughter. If something happened it seems to be in the past now. I would be happy if he comes back. He is having a great season in Avangard Omsk.

 

[The Hockey Tonk Man]

Firm believer of people learning from their mistakes. Hopefully he’s one of them.

 

[themelkman]

The good thing is that they are happily married and have a daughter. If something happened it seems to be in the past now. I would be happy if he comes back. He is having a great season in Avangard Omsk.

Nothing good about it. Hope he never sees north america again

 

[Rogue Leader]

Nothing good about it. Hope he never sees north america again

Why? Why do you dislike him? They seem like a very happy couple.