Tyson Jost

[JLo217]

He just strikes me as a guy like TJ Galiardi. He's gonna have a little impact here and there with some good games. But get stuck in the numbers game with the Avs in the future, possibly get traded and fizzle out.

Hoping i'm wrong but his inability to take advantage of the time he's had on the PP and other opportunities isn't encouraging. I get he's only 20, but it's hard to see where his game grows from here.

 

[Pokecheque]

Galiardi was done in by injuries. There was one forearm/elbow thing in particular that he just never quite recovered from. Before that he was a fantastic two-way utility guy for them, kinda like Colin Wilson with less offense and fewer pratfalls. But I'm glad you brought that guy up--he too had a very promising release that never quite developed for some odd reason.

I dunno...I don't want to go on too long about my consternation regarding his development as I'm likely painting myself into a corner already. I do wish we could see JUST ONCE an extended look at a Jost-Soderberg- Kerfoot line when everyone is healthy and in the lineup. I think that line would still be just as effective defensively and possibly excellent offensively.

 

[CobraAcesS]

Galiardi was done in by injuries. There was one forearm/elbow thing in particular that he just never quite recovered from. Before that he was a fantastic two-way utility guy for them, kinda like Colin Wilson with less offense and fewer pratfalls. But I'm glad you brought that guy up--he too had a very promising release that never quite developed for some odd reason.

I dunno...I don't want to go on too long about my consternation regarding his development as I'm likely painting myself into a corner already. I do wish we could see JUST ONCE an extended look at a Jost-Soderberg- Kerfoot line when everyone is healthy and in the lineup. I think that line would still be just as effective defensively and possibly excellent offensively.

I wanted Ghetto - Soda - Compher myself. Upgrade on Neato but still speedy, and an upgrade oh Calvert/Wilson with speed, grit, and better hands. I think I still would prefer Compher over Kerfoot there, but Jost - Soda - Compher would be a hell of a line if it clicked.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

He just strikes me as a guy like TJ Galiardi. He's gonna have a little impact here and there with some good games. But get stuck in the numbers game with the Avs in the future, possibly get traded and fizzle out.

Hoping i'm wrong but his inability to take advantage of the time he's had on the PP and other opportunities isn't encouraging. I get he's only 20, but it's hard to see where his game grows from here.

Galiardi was done in by injuries. There was one forearm/elbow thing in particular that he just never quite recovered from. Before that he was a fantastic two-way utility guy for them, kinda like Colin Wilson with less offense and fewer pratfalls. But I'm glad you brought that guy up--he too had a very promising release that never quite developed for some odd reason.

I dunno...I don't want to go on too long about my consternation regarding his development as I'm likely painting myself into a corner already. I do wish we could see JUST ONCE an extended look at a Jost-Soderberg- Kerfoot line when everyone is healthy and in the lineup. I think that line would still be just as effective defensively and possibly excellent offensively.

Galiardi was looking pretty good before he kept getting injured, a skilled pest. We had a few guys in there that looked good but couldn't stay healthy and gradually dropped off (i.e. Ryan Wilson).

 

[CobraAcesS]

Galiardi was looking pretty good before he kept getting injured, a skilled pest. We had a few guys in there that looked good but couldn't stay healthy and gradually dropped off (i.e. Ryan Wilson).

Ahh I miss Ryan Wilson when he was at his best. Ryan's numbers compared almost identically to Hjalmarsson for the start to their careers.

 

[Pokecheque]

Don't forget David Jones. He was a fantastic player for the Avs...if only his knees had held up.

 

[CobraAcesS]

Don't forget David Jones. He was a fantastic player for the Avs...if only his knees had held up.

Him signing that contract, and how he played after didn't sit well with me. But I'm grateful for the final years of Tangs lol.

 

[JLo217]

Galiardi was done in by injuries. There was one forearm/elbow thing in particular that he just never quite recovered from. Before that he was a fantastic two-way utility guy for them, kinda like Colin Wilson with less offense and fewer pratfalls. But I'm glad you brought that guy up--he too had a very promising release that never quite developed for some odd reason.

I dunno...I don't want to go on too long about my consternation regarding his development as I'm likely painting myself into a corner already. I do wish we could see JUST ONCE an extended look at a Jost-Soderberg- Kerfoot line when everyone is healthy and in the lineup. I think that line would still be just as effective defensively and possibly excellent offensively.

I'd like to see that too.

Trust me i'm a Jost fan and have been. I was really really against trading him this offseason. I just don't think he's shown that much and doesn't really seem to be growing much in his game either. Say Kaut and whoever the Ott 1st is come in, he's only going to get pushed down more.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Don't forget David Jones. He was a fantastic player for the Avs...if only his knees had held up.

I rwmember liking him a lot when he was around, but I didn’t really understand/follow hockey like I do now. All I remember was that he was a really good goal scorer.

 

[Iceberg]

And how about Chris Stewart? He looked like a young Jerome Iginla there for a moment.

 

[CobraAcesS]

And how about Chris Stewart? He looked like a young Jerome Iginla there for a moment.

I'll never forget how mad Papa Stastny was about Stewy getting traded.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

And how about Chris Stewart? He looked like a young Jerome Iginla there for a moment.

Don't forget Svatos. His first year (the very injury riddled one where he took off in the playoffs) he was a dangling machine. Then he started getting injured and his game went from an offensive dynamo to a opportunistic goal vulture.

 

[Pokecheque]

And how about Chris Stewart? He looked like a young Jerome Iginla there for a moment.

It all went south right after Stewie broke his hand on the thick skull of Kyle Brodziak (who is still in the frickin' league to my astonishment) in that fight. According to Terry Frei the organization soured on him for some off-ice antics that took place while he was on IR. It was never a question of talent or durability with him, merely attitude and work ethic. Conversely, there is no question of Jost's attitude or work ethic.

Good Lord, that 2006 Avs draft class was brutal. 652 total NHL games...and all of them are Stewart's.

 

[expatriatedtexan]

Don't forget Svatos. His first year (the very injury riddled one where he took off in the playoffs) he was a dangling machine. Then he started getting injured and his game went from an offensive dynamo to a opportunistic goal vulture.

Man, he and Turgeon found some nice chemistry though. What I loved about Svatos was how fearless he was. He was always standing around in front of the net looking for those quick passes.

 

[The Abusement Park]

I'll never forget how mad Papa Stastny was about Stewy getting traded.

I remember how pissed I was when he got traded. He was my favorite player at the time.

 

[CobraAcesS]

I remember how pissed I was when he got traded. He was my favorite player at the time.

It was the exact opposite for me actually. EJ was one of my favorite players not on the Avs, and I felt like Stewy was streaky, and propped up by Staz.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

Man, he and Turgeon found some nice chemistry though. What I loved about Svatos was how fearless he was. He was always standing around in front of the net looking for those quick passes.

Or when he'd try to obliterate much larger dmen. One of my favourite memories of the Avs is Svatty spending entire games trying to run over Pronger.

 

[Foppa2118]

There is a massive talent and hockey IQ gap between Jost and Galiardi/Jones/Stewart.

 

[Pokecheque]

There is a massive talent and hockey IQ gap between Jost and Galiardi/Jones/Stewart.

Hockey IQ, yes, but I don't think there's a massive gap in terms of talent between Stewart and Jost. Stewie was quite talented, so much so that it, at times, made up for his lack of dedication (especially anything even remotely resembling responsible defensive play) and hockey sense. If it was just a question of talent, Stewie and Wojtek Wolski would still be tearin' it up in the league right now.

 

[Foppa2118]

Hockey IQ, yes, but I don't think there's a massive gap in terms of talent between Stewart and Jost. Stewie was quite talented, so much so that it, at times, made up for his lack of dedication (especially anything even remotely resembling responsible defensive play) and hockey sense. If it was just a question of talent, Stewie and Wojtek Wolski would still be tearin' it up in the league right now.

Have to disagree strongly here. Stewie and Jones had good but inconsistent wrist shots. Stewie was an ok passer as well but not anything special. The puck skills and natural talent aren't close at all really.

I agree talent isn't everything, but I'm not sure that's relevant here since Stewart and Jones haven't tore up the league either.

 

[The Abusement Park]

It was the exact opposite for me actually. EJ was one of my favorite players not on the Avs, and I felt like Stewy was streaky, and propped up by Staz.

I was like 14 or whatever when he was on the team, so goals and physical play played a big part in that

 

[The Abusement Park]

There is a massive talent and hockey IQ gap between Jost and Galiardi/Jones/Stewart.

What does Jost do that much better than Stewart? Stewart when he was motivated was a damn good power forward.

Edit: He’s definitely better defensively.

 

[Foppa2118]

What does Jost do that much better than Stewart? Stewart when he was motivated was a damn good power forward.

Edit: He’s definitely better defensively.

He was definitely a better power forward but that's not Jost's game or part of the talent aspect we're talking about. Possibly better defensively as well, but I'm not sure that's a fair comparison to make at this point in Jost's career.

Jost is just more naturally talented with his puck skills. He skates better with he puck. He makes more skillful passes between sticks and legs. He has quicker hands down low. He can stick handle in tight much better. I think he has a slightly better shot too, but I think that will take Jost finding himself in more situations to shoot to fully show that off. Stewart had a good shot too, but it's kind of like comparing Iginla to Hejduk. They're a little different in their approach.

Those other aspects though are a big reason why Stewart never stuck as a top 6'er. Along with work ethic of course, but natural skill and vision are a big part of it too.

 

[JLo217]

What does Jost do that much better than Stewart? Stewart when he was motivated was a damn good power forward.

Edit: He’s definitely better defensively.

Other than being better defensively, Jost really doesn't do much of anything. I'd say he really doesn't add much dynamic to the team.

 

[Colorado Avalanche]

Hockey IQ, yes, but I don't think there's a massive gap in terms of talent between Stewart and Jost. Stewie was quite talented, so much so that it, at times, made up for his lack of dedication (especially anything even remotely resembling responsible defensive play) and hockey sense. If it was just a question of talent, Stewie and Wojtek Wolski would still be tearin' it up in the league right now.

Exactly. I would take both Wolski and Stewart over Jost if it comes down to talent. Wolski especially was great talent. Didn't have the drive though..